Hello Stut, Monday, June 27, 2005, 4:59:17 PM, you wrote: >> 0-8 is nine characters, which is two less than eleven, IIRC S> So the length should be 9 not 8 no? Or should I go back to school? It should be 9 if you want 9 characters. Lots of PHP functions are zero-based, but the 3rd parameter to substr is asking for the number of characters to return, not the actual character location in the string to stop at - if it did, then it would have been 8 (0 being the 1st character, etc), but in this case it's 9. It's an easy one to slip-up on imho. Best regards, Richard Davey -- http://www.launchcode.co.uk - PHP Development Services "I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them." - Isaac Asimov -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
