* Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> : > On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 15:28, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > * Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> : > > > On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 13:36, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > > > * Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> : > > > > > On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 11:32, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > > > > > The above notation is unnecessary when developing in PHP5, as objects in > > > > > > PHP5 are passed by reference by default. However, in PHP4, this was > > > > > > > > > > Not entirely, there's still a subtle difference in PHP5 between > > > > > assigning an object with = versus assigning with = &. > > > > > > > > Would you mind explaining the difference? I've seen nothing in the docs, > > > > to indicate that assigning objects with =& in PHP5 is necessary, or even > > > > desired. My experience with PHP5 hasn't shown this either. I'd be > > > > interested to know to what you refer. > > > > > > See for yourself when running the following script: <snip -- code sample> > > > > This doesn't demonstrate what the OP was talking about, which is initial > > assignment of an object using a reference operator. The results of this > > make perfect sense to me -- the references are passed exactly as I would > > expect. > > > > Let me rephrase my question to you: is there a reason to do the initial > > object assignment using a reference operator using PHP5? I.e., is there > > a good reason to do this: > > > > $foo =& new Foo(); > > > > instead of: > > > > $foo = new Foo(); > > > > I haven't seen any reason to do the former case using PHP5. > > Your original response said that the above notation was unneccessary, I > took that to mean the & operator for reference. Looking back I see ow > that your comment was ambiguous, and I agree there is no need for the & > when assigning a new object. I was merely clarifying that references and > normal assignment are not synonymous for objects in PHP 5. Okay -- good to see that we're on the same page. I was worried I'd missed something critical in the manual! References aren't easy to wrap your head around; I, for one, am very happy that I don't need to worry about them nearly as much with PHP5 (syntax is now, "do what I mean"). Interestingly enough, however, the PHP4 behaviour is actually much closer to perl's -- which should have made it easier for me (being a perl programmer), but somehow didn't. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney | WEBSITES: Webmaster and IT Specialist | http://www.garden.org National Gardening Association | http://www.kidsgardening.com 802-863-5251 x156 | http://nationalgardenmonth.org mailto:matthew@xxxxxxxxxx | http://vermontbotanical.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php