[snip] So... how do I work around this? Can I get php to write the files so they aren't owned by "apache" but rather thwn owner of the php script that creates them? [/snip] PHP scripts run by the HTTP server are run as the web server. The web server runs as 'Apache', so Apache needs permissions to do the writing or Safe Mode must be disabled. Read http://us2.php.net/features.safe-mode for more information -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php