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The Cirkut camera certainly had its share of distortion issues, And it would not apply to motion picture cameras.  But you're right. It's hairsplitting.  The iphone actually shoots multiple frames and stitches them. It makes the equivalent of a very short movie actually.

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 6:05 PM Randy Little <randyslittle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thats the same as saying every slit scan camera isnt a camera. Its some real hair splitting.   It would alao imply that almost no film movie camera is a camera since they depend on a rolling shutter. Or the Cirkut camera of the early 1900s

Also its not fancy stitching algorithm its a simple x,y value with a R,g or B value attached per photo site.  The demosaic is pretty fancy. 

Randy S. Little
Emmy winning VFX Supervisor


On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 19:33 Herschel Mair <herschphoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There's also the matter of iphones being scanners, not cameras... and if anything moves (As Andy has often demonstrated in the most basic analogue ways) it will become distorted in the image. The phone shoots many images as the scan passes and has stitching algorithms to correct this effect but it doesn't always give a good result... as The Western Journal article, I believe, demonstrates.

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 5:21 PM Herschel Mair <herschphoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Kind words but really it's just a guess.


On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 12:55 PM Lew Schwartz <lew1716@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Don't believe Herschel for a second. He's not uneducated and he's usually correct, as is the case here.

-Lew Schwartz


On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 2:16 PM Herschel Mair <herschphoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Is it because she’s at the edge of the frame in the second one?
Due to the extremely shot focal length lenses it is not uncommon for the person on the edge of a group to be half the distance of the person in the 
middle … just an uneducated guess.



On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 11:12 AM Stephen Ylvisaker <illvisoccer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This article: https://www.westernjournal.com/woman-takes-wedding-dress-picture-front-mirrors-comes-horrifying-realization-looks-photo/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=newsletter-CT&utm_campaign=dailypm&utm_content=conservative-tribune

Provides a somewhat similar occurrence, and an incomplete explanation from Apple’s tech department.

Stephen


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 26, 2023, at 9:35 AM, Andrew Davidhazy <andpph@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


seeing as one has the ability to send messages to the list that are less than 100kb I am taking the opportunity to send this question that has me partly baffled. So, here are two photos f this woman taken from different frames. In one she is unnatural proportioned. Why? And I have seen this effect in many phone camera shots. Why are not people "complaining" about it. And is there some software that can correct for it?
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Andy




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