Except for some high end monitors (NOT including the 27 inch Apple) all you look at happens to be sRGB, the still common standard. That appears to be the issue in my book: Your printer might do better than the screen, without you being able to judge.
Klaus
Perhaps your lab’s printer changes the profile to Adobe RGB1998 when printing. On my Epsons I’m not even sure how to set them for sRGB. If one lets the printer set the colors they are all screwy and it prints some new variation of sRGB and the other sRGB is now called e-sRGB.
But my skin tones DO click. They're creamy and gorgeous.
This is really interesting.
As I said in my original post, I'm sure someone might be able to tell me why sRGB isn't the best way to go but I have thousands and thousands of prints out there and never once have I, or anyone looking at them, ever commented on unfaithful skin tone reproduction, or any other color for that matter.
This conversation will give me something to read up on but my initial sense is if it ain't broken why fix it?
Lea
sRGB really just sucks. The profile is at least 25 years old and users today have no idea how much labs and print folks are being cheated. I had always heard that HP (not known for their faithful reproduction of colors with desktop printers) invented sRGB over a weekend to spec to a desktop printer being released on the following Monday. Does anybody remember the Epson 1270? HP made this profile before that for their ‘fugitive colors’ desktop dye inks printer. The worst colors are supposedly the skin tones. So your camera and the kids might click, but the skin tones won’t.
prints
Well they could look better and if you lab is working in sRGB I would find a new lab. Every printer epson makes now does adobe RGB gamut. even my old 3800 does 16 bit and adobe rgb.
when was working at Macromedia software back when it existed and had Prepress software we and Adobe fought hard to not have what became sRGB be sRGB. I believe I remember reading one of Sabine Sustreks arguments against it (Sabine was one of the lead people at ICC and a professor at RIT) Basically in sRGB you can kiss your subtle tones in your shadows and highlights good bye. Since you are working in sRGB from start to finish you don't even know what you are missing. If I showed you the gamut difference between say my Leaf backs and anything currently available in a DSLR you would be amazed. the stupid thing is that is not the hardware that is the limiter. Its the programmers of the cameras. the chips can do a much larger color gamut.
Art Faul
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