I don't need to be accepted, just respected. And I hate bullies when
they're anywhere other than at the end of a fist. Don't get me wrong, I
don't jive with that "everyone is a special winner" business. But no one
benefits from being torn down by infantile jerks with any variety of
personality disorder. Just because people are willing tea-baggers at the
office, or at the feet of a so-called master/teacher, doesn't make it
right. Especially in the absence of a subordinate model.
A real teacher, master, or leader provides guidance. Not that either you
or Jan profess to behave in such a capacity, but if you're going to
participate in an online community, there is merit in considering the
manner in which you deliver what you have to offer. But if people insist
on having their asses kissed, well, that's all we'll ever see of them.
On 1/5/14 8:59 PM, RsLittle wrote:
Lol Trevor you haven't ever worked in the commercial art world have
you. You come from a politically motivated need to be accepted world.
We hear stuff like this everyday. What Jan says is more tame then most
critiques in any class I have taught or had in school.
From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.
-------- Original message --------
From: Jan Faul
Date:01/05/2014 11:36 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
Subject: Re: Differences fo opinion
I never offer opinions when I’m drunk. I’m just a guy and any idea
that I am better than the rest of humanity, is untrue.
On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Trevor Cunningham wrote:
You see, that's just it. If you belittled people in a live, in-person
group of a similar nature, you'd have been sent packing long ago or
someone would have cleaned your clock (for which you have a lineup on
this list). That anyone finds online discussion an opportunity to be
flip with others' emotions is unfortunate, and I've certainly been
guilty of this myself. But, for it to monopolize your persona, as you
say, such that you need to declare that you're not really like this
in person, is a significant measure of disrespect to anyone looking
to this forum as a community for learning. As an educator and
technology integration specialist, I believe that learning is the
cornerstone of any social network. Having an alternative, or
enlightened point of view is of great benefit. However, to be
dismissive of, or to attack, perspective is terribly counterproductive.
I've met one member of this forum in person. He was a class act in
person, and is a class act online as well. Your wealth of knowledge,
experience, and work is of tremendous value to this community. Your
panoramic work is of great interest to me. Unfortunately, your
barbed, holier-than-thou veneer makes such a fountain less than potable.
Do you even value online communication? If not, why engage?
On 1/5/14 6:46 PM, Jan Faul wrote:
Anybody on this list who has not actually met me, does not know me.
My email persona is not me.
Art Faul
The Artist Formerly Known as Prints
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