LOL show one post that said one thing negative to Tina by me.
On Jan 5, 2014 2:07 PM, "Trevor Cunningham" <trevor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I don't need to be accepted, just respected. And I hate bullies when they're anywhere other than at the end of a fist. Don't get me wrong, I don't jive with that "everyone is a special winner" business. But no one benefits from being torn down by infantile jerks with any variety of personality disorder. Just because people are willing tea-baggers at the office, or at the feet of a so-called master/teacher, doesn't make it right. Especially in the absence of a subordinate model.
A real teacher, master, or leader provides guidance. Not that either you or Jan profess to behave in such a capacity, but if you're going to participate in an online community, there is merit in considering the manner in which you deliver what you have to offer. But if people insist on having their asses kissed, well, that's all we'll ever see of them.
On 1/5/14 8:59 PM, RsLittle wrote:
Lol Trevor you haven't ever worked in the commercial art world have you. You come from a politically motivated need to be accepted world. We hear stuff like this everyday. What Jan says is more tame then most critiques in any class I have taught or had in school.
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From: Jan Faul
Date:01/05/2014 11:36 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
Subject: Re: Differences fo opinion
I never offer opinions when I’m drunk. I’m just a guy and any idea that I am better than the rest of humanity, is untrue.
On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Trevor Cunningham wrote:
You see, that's just it. If you belittled people in a live, in-person group of a similar nature, you'd have been sent packing long ago or someone would have cleaned your clock (for which you have a lineup on this list). That anyone finds online discussion an opportunity to be flip with others' emotions is unfortunate, and I've certainly been guilty of this myself. But, for it to monopolize your persona, as you say, such that you need to declare that you're not really like this in person, is a significant measure of disrespect to anyone looking to this forum as a community for learning. As an educator and technology integration specialist, I believe that learning is the cornerstone of any social network. Having an alternative, or enlightened point of view is of great benefit. However, to be dismissive of, or to attack, perspective is terribly counterproductive.
I've met one member of this forum in person. He was a class act in person, and is a class act online as well. Your wealth of knowledge, experience, and work is of tremendous value to this community. Your panoramic work is of great interest to me. Unfortunately, your barbed, holier-than-thou veneer makes such a fountain less than potable.
Do you even value online communication? If not, why engage?
On 1/5/14 6:46 PM, Jan Faul wrote:
Anybody on this list who has not actually met me, does not know me. My email persona is not me.
Art Faul
The Artist Formerly Known as Prints
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