I have just bought a windows phone. The keyboard is a problem. Chris
Sent from my Windows Phone
Sent from my Windows Phone
From: Marilyn
Sent: 03/07/2012 03:12
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
Subject: Re: More help needed for a technology challenged person
I appreciate all your information, Karl. Thank you for taking so much time
to help me out. I'm sure I'm not the only one who benefited from your
comments. I took the plunge and bought an iphone. This is a learning
experience for me and in the future I'll know what I do or don't like about
iphone and with a little more experience and knowledge maybe I can make a
better choice. One nice thing for me is, the store where I bought the phone
is only a few blocks from my home and the people are very helpful and
knowledgeable. The store in particular was recommended because of this.
They had many phones to choose from (so confusing!), but I had to make a
choice.
I'm eager to get started, but I had to read so many papers and give so much
information about myself I could have sworn I was buying a house or high end
car.
Now it's up top me to get learning (it's worse than trying to learn my first
camera).
I still appreciate all the help I got very much. I took notes to the store
with me, and thanks to all the information I got from this list I was able
to ask some intelligent questions.
Thank you, to all.
Marilyn
****
Have you ever wished you could tell your childhood self a thing or two about
growing up?
Would the knowledge you know now have saved you from learning things the
hard way?
It's Tough Growing Up: Children's Stories of Courage
Marilyn Dalrymple and Joan Foor
www.itstoughgrowingup.com
***
Where's Ezra? A children's story about being and having friends.
Marilyn Dalrymple, author; Leslie Duffey, Illustrator
-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Shah-Jenner
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:24 PM
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
Subject: Re: More help needed for a technology challenged person
I was looking for a definitive comparison site re the phones but find them
all a little -what.. biased ? incomplete? something like that..
http://www.redmondpie.com/ios-5-vs.-android-4.0-ice-cream-sandwich-vs.-windows-phone-7.5-mango-comparison/
My experience has only been with winmobile, though I've a few friends who've
got iphones, and I've heard some of their grumbles and complaints.
Generally though they seem happy to have an iphone and accept whatever
limitations they experience or imagine they experience. (bills aside).
Win mobile is based on Windows CE which has been around since forever and is
definately not as limited as they state in th above link. I know for a fact
cloud backup is available for Win mobile, and while I don't know the precise
OS they speak of above, I'd be amazed that the statement about the OS not
being customizable were true given a plethora of skins available to change
the appearance of every earlier incarnation of the OS, and the nuts and
bolts nature of windows to change settings. And yes, I have a flashplayer
so I know not what they talk of .
I hear Android has had some security issues, but phones are inherently
insecure.. loose one once and you'll know what I mean, irrespective of the
operating system.. There are some third party programs and Windows offers
one free that allow you to locate lost phones or even lock them (or 'brick'
them in iSpeak), and some can allow you to silently call your missing phone,
have it report it's location to you via GPS AND let you listen to what is
happening where the phone is located. Sounds like a plus until you realize
that someone can install this by stealth and use it to spy on you.
security.. hmmm.
Irrespective of all that, all modern phone hardware is good these days
(exploding batteries or screens not withstanding) so you might find other
features help make the decision. As has been mentioned, SD card support,
gps modules, accelerometers, interface facilities such as standard earphones
and USB, bluetooth, wifi, IR communications - not all phones have
everything. Being able to 'backup' all your TV and AV remotes to your phone
and use the phone to control all your appliances is pretty cool if the phone
has IR capabilities (not to mention being able to take control over TVs in
waiting rooms )
I love that I have a true Sirf GPS module in my particular htc, which means
it's fully functional without psudo-gps network support - and having tried
over a dozen GPS programs I'd highly recommend Igo over all the others,
unless U-turns are something you enjoy. It's a lot more adaptive than any
other and takes hints exremely well. Not a Big Name in the game here, I was
kind of impressed to find a Hungarian program beat the stuffing out of
programs specifically designed for my country. I found a freeware gps
program for my travels in Laos too, windows /CE developers tend to write
lots of software for obscure applications and Laos is off the map for all
the big name gps mappers.
Integrated or sliding keyboards, clamshell, touchscreen only - different
physical layouts suit different people, the rise of the touchscreen-only
type phones has seen the other styles slide a bit but they still have their
followers. If you find yourself typing lots on phones then keyboards can be
handy - although some users find Swype and similar programs better.
Software wise, the SPB suite of programs are well coded and very usefull,
specifically Traveller - a killer program which is now available for iPhones
as well. well worth a look at if you travel and their source for weather
data seems more accurate than some other sources.
I confess to not using my phone for entertainment purposes much, but the
standard MP3 and video player programs have been handy on the odd occasion
when I find myself locked in a cupboard and I don't use any e-reader
functions, that's what the kindle is for. All phones seem capable of
entertaining people, and yes, plenty of games there if you are into that.
On the whole everyone I know seems happy with their phones and will defend
them furiously - that's a sign they're happy, right? Well, up until they
scream and hurl them at a wall or start uttering dozens of reasons why their
phone is no good, but this is usually just prior to purchasing the newest
model.
I didn't mention blackberry as the only people I know who have them were
forced to carry them by their employers and they always seem reluctant to be
seen using one.
to help me out. I'm sure I'm not the only one who benefited from your
comments. I took the plunge and bought an iphone. This is a learning
experience for me and in the future I'll know what I do or don't like about
iphone and with a little more experience and knowledge maybe I can make a
better choice. One nice thing for me is, the store where I bought the phone
is only a few blocks from my home and the people are very helpful and
knowledgeable. The store in particular was recommended because of this.
They had many phones to choose from (so confusing!), but I had to make a
choice.
I'm eager to get started, but I had to read so many papers and give so much
information about myself I could have sworn I was buying a house or high end
car.
Now it's up top me to get learning (it's worse than trying to learn my first
camera).
I still appreciate all the help I got very much. I took notes to the store
with me, and thanks to all the information I got from this list I was able
to ask some intelligent questions.
Thank you, to all.
Marilyn
****
Have you ever wished you could tell your childhood self a thing or two about
growing up?
Would the knowledge you know now have saved you from learning things the
hard way?
It's Tough Growing Up: Children's Stories of Courage
Marilyn Dalrymple and Joan Foor
www.itstoughgrowingup.com
***
Where's Ezra? A children's story about being and having friends.
Marilyn Dalrymple, author; Leslie Duffey, Illustrator
-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Shah-Jenner
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:24 PM
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
Subject: Re: More help needed for a technology challenged person
I was looking for a definitive comparison site re the phones but find them
all a little -what.. biased ? incomplete? something like that..
http://www.redmondpie.com/ios-5-vs.-android-4.0-ice-cream-sandwich-vs.-windows-phone-7.5-mango-comparison/
My experience has only been with winmobile, though I've a few friends who've
got iphones, and I've heard some of their grumbles and complaints.
Generally though they seem happy to have an iphone and accept whatever
limitations they experience or imagine they experience. (bills aside).
Win mobile is based on Windows CE which has been around since forever and is
definately not as limited as they state in th above link. I know for a fact
cloud backup is available for Win mobile, and while I don't know the precise
OS they speak of above, I'd be amazed that the statement about the OS not
being customizable were true given a plethora of skins available to change
the appearance of every earlier incarnation of the OS, and the nuts and
bolts nature of windows to change settings. And yes, I have a flashplayer
so I know not what they talk of .
I hear Android has had some security issues, but phones are inherently
insecure.. loose one once and you'll know what I mean, irrespective of the
operating system.. There are some third party programs and Windows offers
one free that allow you to locate lost phones or even lock them (or 'brick'
them in iSpeak), and some can allow you to silently call your missing phone,
have it report it's location to you via GPS AND let you listen to what is
happening where the phone is located. Sounds like a plus until you realize
that someone can install this by stealth and use it to spy on you.
security.. hmmm.
Irrespective of all that, all modern phone hardware is good these days
(exploding batteries or screens not withstanding) so you might find other
features help make the decision. As has been mentioned, SD card support,
gps modules, accelerometers, interface facilities such as standard earphones
and USB, bluetooth, wifi, IR communications - not all phones have
everything. Being able to 'backup' all your TV and AV remotes to your phone
and use the phone to control all your appliances is pretty cool if the phone
has IR capabilities (not to mention being able to take control over TVs in
waiting rooms )
I love that I have a true Sirf GPS module in my particular htc, which means
it's fully functional without psudo-gps network support - and having tried
over a dozen GPS programs I'd highly recommend Igo over all the others,
unless U-turns are something you enjoy. It's a lot more adaptive than any
other and takes hints exremely well. Not a Big Name in the game here, I was
kind of impressed to find a Hungarian program beat the stuffing out of
programs specifically designed for my country. I found a freeware gps
program for my travels in Laos too, windows /CE developers tend to write
lots of software for obscure applications and Laos is off the map for all
the big name gps mappers.
Integrated or sliding keyboards, clamshell, touchscreen only - different
physical layouts suit different people, the rise of the touchscreen-only
type phones has seen the other styles slide a bit but they still have their
followers. If you find yourself typing lots on phones then keyboards can be
handy - although some users find Swype and similar programs better.
Software wise, the SPB suite of programs are well coded and very usefull,
specifically Traveller - a killer program which is now available for iPhones
as well. well worth a look at if you travel and their source for weather
data seems more accurate than some other sources.
I confess to not using my phone for entertainment purposes much, but the
standard MP3 and video player programs have been handy on the odd occasion
when I find myself locked in a cupboard and I don't use any e-reader
functions, that's what the kindle is for. All phones seem capable of
entertaining people, and yes, plenty of games there if you are into that.
On the whole everyone I know seems happy with their phones and will defend
them furiously - that's a sign they're happy, right? Well, up until they
scream and hurl them at a wall or start uttering dozens of reasons why their
phone is no good, but this is usually just prior to purchasing the newest
model.
I didn't mention blackberry as the only people I know who have them were
forced to carry them by their employers and they always seem reluctant to be
seen using one.
