RE: Everybody Is A Photographer

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Well I looked at a new laptop last weekend.  The mac airbook was about a grand, but a windows machine could be had for about $500.  Granted the apple used flash memory rather than a hard drive which would be a big plus at times, but with only 64 gigs of storage (at least I think thats what it was) thats not ideal.  Didnt look to see if it had a USB port for external drives.  Still Apple has always been inovative, but its also always been higher.

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Subject: Re: Everybody Is A Photographer
From: Andy <adoller@xxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, September 26, 2011 11:51 pm
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
<photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
<photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

What about the users Windows NT for Dec Alpha and MIPS processors or windows 2000 or Vista the biggest Microsoft blunder.  Some people have selective memory and have LEGACY biases about Apple from an era when the operating CEO (Sulley) fully and openly admits that the only decision worse than joining apple was firing Steve Jobs. 

The last LEGACY apple fallacy is that they are over priced. Just last month HP toshiba and acer publicly cried to intel to  give special pricing to them so that they can compete with Apples MacBookAir's $999 price. They freely admit they can't offer a profitable netbook device!  How the tables have turned. 

Andy
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On Sep 27, 2011, at 12:01 AM, mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Well looks like they never learn anything.  Anyone else remember Windows ME???  I am still scarred from that experience

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Subject: Re: Everybody Is A Photographer
From: Andy <adoller@xxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, September 26, 2011 10:32 pm
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
<photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
<photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

OS X is now ten years old so you really do need to move on with your abandonment diatribe. It doesn't hold up. As for values of hardware, Check your facts again. A two year old Mac has less depreciation that a 2 year old pc. Just look at eBay. The used Mac market thrives. You couldn't sell a two year old PC if you tried.

If you think MS has your back, I guess you haven't moved to windows 7 yet then because they have the same obsolescence built in to because the finally got rid of 8 and 16 bit compatibility. Good luck running it on a two year old machine. Aero requires the performance just to open a window and 2 GB of memory to just run the OS. Talk about an operating system that brings nothing new to the table but cripples a screaming fast machine. No thanks. I have to use it at work but no where else.

Andy



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On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:39 PM, David Dyer-Bennet <dd-b@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 2011-09-26 15:40, Andy wrote:
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:45 AM, David Dyer-Bennet<dd-b@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, September 26, 2011 04:56, Emily L. Ferguson wrote:
>>>> At 11:07 AM +0100 9/24/11, wildimages@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>> Nobody includes back-comptability today.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, that's not true. Apple has maintained backwards
>>>> compatibility with its proprietary software for at least 4 versions
>>>> of its operating system. Only with the most recent new version are
>>>> they finally breaking that.
>>>
>>> Funny you should mention Apple; since they've abused their customers by
>>> breaking backwards compatibility worse than any other company I've ever
>>> heard of. Even worse than Canon!
>>>
>>> First there were 68000-based Macs, then PowerPC-based Macs, then OS-X,
>>> then Intel-based Macs (or maybe I've got the order wrong there). Each
>>> switch required a complete software re-load and re-buy. I'm amazed there
>>> are any Mac users left at all; but I know people who've been through every
>>> step of that nightmare, and still praise Apple. There's some kind of
>>> reality-distortion field involved, I think.
>
>>
>> Funny you should rail on apple in particular. Apple actually allowed for each transitional break from hardware plat forms to be one version backwards compatible. Exactly opposite of what you claim. The transition from PowerPC to intel in osx has been heralded as the most successful and invisible from a user standpoint. All of the burden was on the software developers. Apple even gave developers a program environment to compile code for all existing platforms. Look up Coco, universal application, Rosetta before you trash apple about not being backwards comparable. Yell at adobe for being slow to convert their work. Yell at Microsoft for refusing to admit it was time to move on. Apple supported developers all along the way a gave tools to keep moving. Adobe and MS and quicken ect chose to neglect their mac customers and take their money without making the software have feature parity to the Ms equivalents.
>
> I've seen people complaining about re-buying all their software, and I've watched the used price of hardware disappear, and I've seen people forced into upgrades, over and over again. One version isn't very much.
>
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