Hello all, I am just kinda jumping into this conversation, but was reading what Dan wrote below and am wondering if there's an operational definition of what "macro" truly is in this thread... True "macro" isn't measured by the distance from subject to lens, but rather how large the object is produced on the film or sensor in comparison to real life. So, if the lens maker states that the macro is 1:4, it means that the object is 1/4 life sized on the sensor. So, 1:1 is life-sized (where the object is as big on the sensor as it is in real-life...)and is "true" macro. If the object is larger than real-life ("super" macro, I suppose...), say 2:1, it becomes micro. If you want a greater magnification, a good macro lens (such as Nikon's 105mm "Micro") will do a great job and allows true 1:1 imaging. Beyond this, a good set of extension tubes will work nicely to give you even greater magnification. Hope this helps a bit and that all of you have a great day! Mark Lent -----Original Message----- From: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Cunningham Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 2:28 AM To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students Subject: "Super" macro...Andy? After posting this, and pondering the idea that macro just doesn't go micro enough, I did some digging and found this product: http://www.rugift.com/photocameras/raynox-dcr-250-macrolens-nikon.htm Now that I think about it, Andy, is there a rather portable, more microscopic, attachment/lens you could possibly use in the field? On 9/13/10 9:37 AM, Dan Mitchell wrote: >>> Dan Mitchell - Lace-wing fly >> Confused by the "super macro" setting, but it's likely proprietary. Nice vivid colors, it almost looks underwater. > The "macro" setting allows focus to a few inches, while the "super-macro" setting can have the subject very nearly touching the lens front element. The subject insect is less than one inch long. And I can re-photograph a color transparency, on a light-box, almost full size - which is a really useful way of digitising my 35mm material - see my orchid photos, taken from transparencies re-photographed on a light-box by the same camera - http://www.flickr.com/photos/danmdan/sets/72157624652147959/ > > dan. > >