Roy writes >Lea: >How do you: >A-find all that metadata in these images? > One way is to download the photo and open it up in Photoshop and then use File Info Menu to see what is inside. >How do we: >B-strip it out before posting? > Save the file as a .bmp strips out the EXIF camera data. Remember when you change it back to a jpeg to put the copyright >info into it. Hey different ways to do the same thing! :) Though, I tried this and found it changes the image data, setting jpeg compression to 100% makes the image bigger(!) - anything under this is altering what you've done already :( the stripping method I posted doesn't alter the actual image data.. this is a rough view of some of the embedded image data easily aquired: File name : rmiller-1.jpg File size : 113983 bytes File date : 2008:09:12 09:03:54 Camera make : Canon Camera model : Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XT Date/Time : 2008:07:12 21:28:07 Resolution : 487 x 700 Flash used : Yes (auto, red eye reduction mode) Focal length : 55.0mm (35mm equivalent: 440mm) CCD width : 4.50mm Exposure time: 0.017 s (1/60) Aperture : f/5.6 ISO equiv. : 400 Whitebalance : Auto Metering Mode: matrix Exposure : program (auto) ======= IPTC data: ======= Byline : Roy H. Mil;ler BylineTitle : Comtact: PhotoRoy5@xxxxxxx (C)Notice : © 2008 etc.. however as this link explains: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum36/654.htm there is more here's a chopped up clip of some of what was in your image.. http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/.<?xpacket begin='W5M0MpCehiHzreSzNTczkc9d' ?>.<?adobe-xap-filters esc="CR"?>.<x:xapmeta xmlns:x='adobe:ns:meta/' x:xaptk='XMP toolkit 2.8.2 -33, framework 1.5'>.<rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf='http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#' xmlns:iX='http://ns.adobe.com/iX/1.0/'>.. <rdf:Description about='uuid:55c66299-7bb1-11dd-869d-af7d7836f7be'. xmlns:pdf=' http://ns.adobe.com/pdf/1.3/'>. <!-- pdf:Author is aliased -->.</rdf:Description>.. <rdf:Description about='uuid:55c66299-7bb1-11dd-869d-af7d7836f7be'. xmlns:photoshop='http://ns.adobe.com/photoshop/1.0/'>. <photoshop:AuthorsPosition>Comtact: PhotoRoy5@xxxxxxx</photoshop:AuthorsPosition>. <!-- photoshop:Marked is aliased -->. <!-- photoshop:Author is aliased -->. <!-- photoshop:Copyright is aliased -->. </rdf:Description>.. <rdf:Description about='uuid:55c66299-7bb1-11dd-869d-af7d7836f7be'. xmlns:xap='http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/'>. <!-- xap:Authors is aliased -->. <!-- xap:Author is aliased -->. </rdf:Description>.. <rdf:Description about='uuid:55c66299-7bb1-11dd-869d- af7d7836f7be'.xmlns:xapMM='http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/mm/'>. <xapMM:DocumentID>adobe:docid:photoshop:8d6afaf7-7bb0-11dd-869d-af7d7836f7be</xapMM:DocumentID>. </rdf:Description>.. <rdf:Description about='uuid:55c66299-7bb1-11dd-869d-af7d7836f7be'. xmlns:xapRights='http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/rights/'>. <xapRights:Marked>True</xap Rights:Marked>. <!-- xapRights:Copyright is aliased -->. </rdf: Description>.. <rdf:Description about='uuid:55c66299-7bb1-11dd-869d-af7d7836f7be'. xmlns:dc='http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/'>. <dc:creator>. <rdf:Seq>. <rdf:li>Roy H. Mil;ler</rdf:li>. </rdf:Seq>. </dc:creator>. <dc:rights>. <rdf:Alt>. <rdf:li xml:lang='x-default'>© 20 08</rdf:li>. </rdf:Alt>. </dc:rights>. </rdf:Description>..</rdf:RDF>.</x:xap meta> <?xpacket end='w'?>ÿâ.XICC_PROFILE......HLino....mntrRGB XYZ .Î.......1..acspMSFT....IEC sRGB..............öÖ......Ó-HP ....... <....bTRC...<....text....Copyright (c) 1998 Hewlett-Packard Company..desc........sRGB IEC61966-2.1............sRGB IEC61966-2.1...... 1 Default RGB colour space - sRGB............IEC61966-2.1 Default RGB colour space - sRGB......desc.......,Reference Viewing Condition in IEC61966-2.1...........,Reference Viewing Condition in IEC61966-2.1" etc none of it image.. I really wish these programs would do what we've paid them to do and just create or save an image without sticking their garbage through it :/