Andy Dollaer writes: >Karl, >All of your examples of corporate intrusions are from 1 single incident and the company responsible is Sony ONLY. Apple and Microsoft as companies were not responsible and did not collude with them at all. sorry, I did not suggest they were colluding Athough it has been suggested by security analysts that the AV companies who, once alerted to the Sony rootkit issue did little or nothing MAY in fact be party to the issue, and may in fact have been colluding though this is being investigated elsewhere true I cited a single incident, that by no means means there are not other examples of the companies I mentioned intruding. and did you not get the post I sent some time back that Sony did not do this just once, but a second time. Just recently they were caught at it again. Even after the initial prosecution! And the Apple attempt at a rootkit is their THIRD attempt >While I agree that we all need to be aware of who and what is monitoring us, your assertions are scare tactics that I don't want to begin to understand. you assert 'scare tactics'.. the sysadmins across the world who had to deal with Microsoft recently opening a backdoor to turn 'security' updates back on caused enormous loss.. I understand a TV station off air for a day and a hospital unable to access any records at all were two badly affected victims of an update which supposedly could not happen. It made the media here, did it where you are? you may assert scare tactics - many were accused of that when they first raised the issue of Sony rootkits (actually most who 'scared' people were called deluded, some are still met with this response!) Vista's integrated DRM was met with laughter and mutterings of paranoid and irrational behaviour.. A lot of people still don't understand that an SD card contains DRM, and that an inadvertantly damaged sector in the card can render an otherwise perfectly good card useless - funny given an MMC card which the SD card is based on doesn't have this I recommend astalavista.com to those who know everything about how safe software is, sure it's a hackers site masked as a security site, but there's a lot of valid security information floating about there to make it useful Another one for the network admins who know everything - I like to recommend is the Linux distro Backtrack. it's an eye opener just how transparent a 'secure' network is. Not everyone is aware of everything, we're all learning at different stages, right? were you aware that there was an attempt by sony to run a rootkit eqivalent on Apples? I wasn't till not long back! Would it be more responsible to remain silent and (on a photo eduction site) let people go ignorant? karl
