Yes I was recalled to find a pipe they had buried, ..... Reply from Chris http://www.myphilosophy.eu :> -----Original Message----- :> From: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner- :> photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Eichhorn :> Sent: 23 December 2007 06:31 :> To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students :> Subject: Re: Why Some Photographers Hate Creative Commons :> :> There's a story about an engineer who was forced to retire early. He :> was called back as a consultant to advise the company about a problem :> with a malfunctioning compressor. After he looked at the problem, he :> took a piece of chalk and made an X on the errant part of the :> machine. Fix this he said. Subsequently, he sent a consulting bill :> of $50,000.10 to the company. Queried about the strange amount, he :> said, "It's 10 cents for the chalk and $50,000 for knowing where to :> place the mark." So, it depends! :> :> But much of Emily's list (Not the famous "Emily's List", a movement :> of Democratic women in the US committed to promoting the election of :> women to political office.) requires amortization, and the assistance :> of a one-armed economist to figure it out! :> :> Roger :> :> On 22 Dec 2007, at 8:17 PM, Emily L. Ferguson wrote: :> :> > A hundred pounds a day - lessee. That's 50 bucks a day. :> > :> > Don't think so. More like $100 bucks an hour for weddings where I :> > live. And that's per person. Most weddings are done with a photog :> > and a couple assistants who are at least $350 a day. And that's an :> > 8 hour day. :> > :> > So let's see how that plays out: :> > :> > Equipment: :> > camera bodies, at least 2 required $1300 to $2400 each - $2000 :> > average each camera :> > lenses, at least 2 required $600 to $900 each - $1500 each camera :> > flashes - $150 each, need three or four for portrait shots, along :> > with light stands etc. :> > Memory cards, at least 8 Gigs required for a wedding $350 each camera :> > Total: $5500 ever couple years :> > :> > Computer, possibly 2 if assistant is regular worker, $2000 (incl :> > monitor, keyboard etc) :> > External drives for computer $200/500Gig, maybe one per computer :> > misc computer stuff - $300 for tablet, DVDS, cheap printer - each :> > computer :> > Computer application license - Photoshop costs $675, need Office :> > and Quickbooks too :> > Total: around $8000 for two computers :> > :> > Equipment insurance: ??? :> > :> > Auto expenses: :> > car insurance, depending on jurisdiction, around $900/year :> > car maintenance, depending on age of car, around $1200/year but :> > don't need tires, or brakes, or suspension :> > Gasoline, depending on mileage, about $35/week :> > Total: around $4000/year for cheap, efficient car. Don't get a truck. :> > :> > Car - $12,000 on the cheap. Every 4 years or so. :> > :> > Business Education - conferences, weekends and weeklong - $2000/year :> > :> > Rent on living space - around here it's $1300/month for 3 bedroom :> > house :> > or Mortgage for same - around $800/month :> > Health Insurance - ha, ha, ha - $550/month with $1000 deductible :> > House maintenance - $4000/year :> > Home insurance - $800 on $300K house :> > Real estate Taxes - depending on valuation of living space - $1700/ :> > year on $300K house :> > Utilities - around $3000yr if you don't have a cell phone, and what :> > wedding photog can be in business without a cell phone. :> > :> > Fed and State Taxes on net income: $30-40% maybe $2500/yr. :> > :> > Retirement savings???? :> > Married? Have kids? :> > Savings for children's education??? :> > savings for when you don't have any work??? :> > Food - haven't figured that in yet. bare minimum $100/week. :> > :> > So: :> > :> > $50 bucks a day every day of the year = $18,000/year. :> > That's assuming you have work every day of the year and never get :> > sick or have to take time off. :> > :> > Your rent alone is more than half that. Your food is $5200/year. :> > That's $14,000. :> > :> > Hmm. :> > :> > -- :> > Emily L. Ferguson :> > mailto:elf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx :> > 508-563-6822 :> > New England landscapes, wooden boats and races :> > http://www.landsedgephoto.com :> > http://e-and-s.instaproofs.com/ :> >