From: <lookaround360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> I'm now using HP 9180 and find it perfect for my needs. There : are some new rag matte and air-dried silver print looking papers : available for it now. : : Go here for a comprehensive coparo reviews of HP, Epson, Canon: : : http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/printers/Pigs/page_1.html that's a nice reference page, thanks :) one thing so far .. http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/printers/Pigs/page_12.html does the Epson print illustration exhibit a green cast to anyone else or just me? the score and comments seem incongruous on this page. another thing I noticed on page 13 http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/printers/Pigs/page_13.html a ring around! Something I've been advocating (and using to create profiles) for ages! :) k