Re: FW: Maco genius print film

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I was looking in Tim Rudman's toning book, and he states that IPI says Selenium is pretty effective to preserver photographies BUT complete toning is required.
Sulfide is far more effective from what it says in there


Herschel Mair wrote:

Hi Guy,
I'm afraid it's bee a while, but the research was done at the Image Permanence Institute at RIT.
Try this link.
Actually, I think it wasn't so much that the selenium toning wasn't effective as much as the fact that the selenium (Or Gold in Gold toning) had nothing to do with it! Andy do you have a reference to the original thesis? I'll send you some info off site http://www.largeformatphotography.info/toning-permanence.html
Herschel

*/Guy Glorieux <guy.glorieux@xxxxxxxxxxxx>/* wrote:

    Hi Herchel,
    What would be a reference to reed on selenium toning not working
    to protect the length of silver print?
    Thanks,
    Guy

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        *From:* Herschel Mair <mailto:herschelmair@xxxxxxxxx>
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        *Subject:* Re: FW: Maco genius print film

        It sounds like this is pretty basic black and white material.
DEVELOPER: PQ developer is common and garden developer which
        you could use for film or paper.
        It's not that different from the other basic developer which
        is MQ. The one uses Phenidone as the basic developing agent,
        the other uses Metol (P and M) The "Q" is from Hyroquinone.
        Metol is slightly more toxic than Phenidone so that's prbably
        why they advise PQ.
You could also use D76 or Dektol, HC110 or D19 or any of the
        basic Kodak developers. Whatever you do, you'll have to do a
        test to see what development time gives you what you want.
        If you have an exposure guide, then shoot a white wall and see
        how long you must develop the film to get solid black. use
        that as a starting point.
Remember that, as a rough rule, exposure controls density and
        development controls contrast

        STOP BATH: Kodak Indicator stop bath will work absolutely fine.

        FIXER: Almost all  fixer is Thiosulphate based. Some is Sodium
        Thiosulphate and some Amonia Thiosulphate Ilford Hypam is the
        Amonia variety and I think Kodak rapid fixer is too. I believe
        that rapid fixer is a hardening fixer. Anyway, tray processing
        is always dubious for film. If you can get a deep tank and dip
        the film into it so that no surface touch, that's a better
        idea. Other wise clip the 4 corners and try to keep the film
        off the bottom of the tray

        WASH: Fixed volume just means that the amount of water leaving
        the washer is the same as the amount coming in so the water
        volume stays the same. The other method would be a machine
        that fills up and then dumps the water in regular cycles.

        TONING - they also recommend using LP-Selenia for silver
        protection half way
        through the wash process; I've never heard of doing this
This is selenium toning to make the image last longer. It now
        appears that this doesn't work. So don't bother with it.

        5. FINAL WASH: wetting agent - Use filtered water with photo-flo.

        Herschel

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