Alfred, If you want to discuss "photo realty" instead of more precise nomenclature - the subject of the original post - change the subject line. It's a fine topic we've kicked around here for ages. If you make things like photo-based painting or collages or mixed media would you not want them described as such? Or do you feel it doesn't matter if you call tangerines oranges? :-) BTW I believe images have little to do with what's real no matter if they've been squeezed through the PS screen-door or left as nature intended. Painting or drawing is better at depicting what's real than photographs. AZ Build a Lookaround! The Lookaround Book, 4Th ed. Now an E-book. http://www.panoramacamera.us > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: What is a photograph anyway? > From: Alfred Tay <alfred_tay@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Sun, March 05, 2006 10:28 am > To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students > <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >I don't think the question had anything to do with how photographs > >relate to the "real". It was simply a question about termanology. > > > >For clarity of language don't call a photo-based picture a photograph. > > i would disagree... all forms of imaging are so called constructs of > reality... so what makes one more of a photograph and the other a photobase? > > by the mere act of choosing a particular scene to shoot, the exposure > levels, aperature, focus etc... you are choosing to represent a facade of > reality... so how is that different from a photobased picture construction? > > in order to understand what is a photograph > we have to understand what constitute a photographic representation > if the photo rep is divorced from the need to represent reality > then we can call of forms of photobased imaging... a photograph > > if we cannot divorce photo rep from the need to represent reality > then any form of photographs cannot be called a photograph... > > essentially... photolithography... used in sign making or any kind of > imaging that use light to form its base image is a PHOTOGRAPH (a drawing > with light... correct me if i am wrong... photo means light in latin and > graph means drawing) > > which is why it is so crucial to divorce photography as a medium for > representing reality (this is more a bastion for the photojournalists)... > people have to understand that photography can never and will never > represent reality... once people can accept that... then people will be ale > to accept that photography is nothing more than a light drawing... > > alfred > > _________________________________________________________________ > Download MSN Messenger emoticons and display pictures. > http://ilovemessenger.msn.com/?mkt=en-sg