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From: "Roger Eichhorn" <eichhorn@xxxxxx>
To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students"
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Bell Peppers
Don,
No! How can you possibly get the impression of two human bodies in a
sensuous embrace using an avocado unless you peel a couple of them and
carve the flesh. But, that might be interesting. With two avocado pits,
you have the possibility of two eyes, or, two other parts of the male
anatomy. I await your submission. Clearly, this could be morphed into
an on-topic discussion! But, I must go -- the market closes in one hour!
Roger
Roger Eichhorn
eichhorn@xxxxxx
On 6 Feb 2006, at 19:39, Don Roberts wrote:
Well, I'd really rather use an avocado. Is that okay?
Don
Roger Eichhorn wrote:
Ahh! I have visions of a "pepper gallery" competition. The many
protagonists involved in this discussion will photograph bell peppers
purchased at their local market, and submit their best efforts to be
critiqued and judged by Bob Maxey and each other. To make the
competition fair, they will have to agree to use the same type of
camera. I would suggest Brownies or an 11X14 equipped with a Hypergon
lens, but all may not have access to them so a popular one- time use
camera should suffice.
Andy could easily set this up and serve as a second to the winner in
the duels that will surely follow.
Roger
Roger Eichhorn
eichhorn@xxxxxx
On 6 Feb 2006, at 18:37, Don Roberts wrote:
Elson, don't for a minute consider yourself ignorant or a failure
because you don't see much in Weston's peppers. I have been involved
in photography as a livelihood and and a personal compulsion for over
50 years and I never saw much in those photos either except as an
exercise in lighting. The only thing in this thread that amazes me
is that so many intelligent, experienced photographers seem to be
reluctant to admit that there are many different kinds of photography
besides what drives them and many different preferences in visual
{and other) forms. Too many here make the assumption that art drives
the photo bus, or scenics, or science, or self exploration. The
truth, and you all know it, is that there are many equally valid uses
and applications for any form of human endeavor. Get your heads out
of your respective body parts and read what people are saying and
take a little time to think before you leap screaming into the fray.
My friends and I often recommend movies, plays, books or music to
each other and then ask what the other person thought. If they don't
share our enthusiasm, that's okay. They are not me; I am not them.
It would be a hell of a boring world if we all liked the same things
and thought alike. But that's my viewpoint. You are not me. If you
prefer to scream and shout and run about, feel free. I just get
tired of seeing ill considered opinions and misinterpretations blown
into tirades about photographic heresies. This seems to be becoming
an increasingly contentious age so perhaps we are all victims of the
times. Sad thought.
Don Roberts
Elson T. Elizaga wrote:
Forgive my ignorance and my failure to see. I'm astonished about my
comment myself. Sometimes I share with other photographers the same
or similar reaction to an admired photograph -- such as "Afghan
Girl" by Steve McCurry -- sometimes I don't. In my place, I
sometimes find myself watching a movie, such as "Mystic River" (and
recently "Beautiful Boxer"), and discovered only less than people
with me. But I love these films. I've just been watching "Seven
Samurai" and "Hidden Fortress" by Akira Kurosawa (who else?), but
I'm not moved -- perhaps, not yet -- by Weston's "Pepper".
I've read some articles about the photograph. But then, it's a
photograph, it's supposed to strike us by its being a photograph,
not by the volumes of text about it, right?
lookaround360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Elson,
I am astonished by your comment. If you are seriously interested
in
photography look at a lot of it and read what is being said about
it. I
just saw a magnificent Weston exhibit and even after decades of
seeing
his prints (the real prints) I was deeply moved by there clarity of
intent and perfection. Perhaps because he is one of the most
imitated
photographers along with Adams his work may not seem special to you.
I am not bashing Elson,
AZ
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Roger:
I'm all for the avocado. Besides, at the end of the shoot, it's guacamole
for all!
Cheers,
Dave
