Re: Bell Peppers

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Eichhorn" <eichhorn@xxxxxx> To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Bell Peppers


Don,

No! How can you possibly get the impression of two human bodies in a sensuous embrace using an avocado unless you peel a couple of them and carve the flesh. But, that might be interesting. With two avocado pits, you have the possibility of two eyes, or, two other parts of the male anatomy. I await your submission. Clearly, this could be morphed into an on-topic discussion! But, I must go -- the market closes in one hour!

Roger

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On 6 Feb 2006, at 19:39, Don Roberts wrote:

Well, I'd really rather use an avocado.  Is that okay?
Don

Roger Eichhorn wrote:

Ahh! I have visions of a "pepper gallery" competition. The many protagonists involved in this discussion will photograph bell peppers purchased at their local market, and submit their best efforts to be critiqued and judged by Bob Maxey and each other. To make the competition fair, they will have to agree to use the same type of camera. I would suggest Brownies or an 11X14 equipped with a Hypergon lens, but all may not have access to them so a popular one- time use camera should suffice.

Andy could easily set this up and serve as a second to the winner in the duels that will surely follow.

Roger

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On 6 Feb 2006, at 18:37, Don Roberts wrote:

Elson, don't for a minute consider yourself ignorant or a failure because you don't see much in Weston's peppers. I have been involved in photography as a livelihood and and a personal compulsion for over 50 years and I never saw much in those photos either except as an exercise in lighting. The only thing in this thread that amazes me is that so many intelligent, experienced photographers seem to be reluctant to admit that there are many different kinds of photography besides what drives them and many different preferences in visual {and other) forms. Too many here make the assumption that art drives the photo bus, or scenics, or science, or self exploration. The truth, and you all know it, is that there are many equally valid uses and applications for any form of human endeavor. Get your heads out of your respective body parts and read what people are saying and take a little time to think before you leap screaming into the fray. My friends and I often recommend movies, plays, books or music to each other and then ask what the other person thought. If they don't share our enthusiasm, that's okay. They are not me; I am not them. It would be a hell of a boring world if we all liked the same things and thought alike. But that's my viewpoint. You are not me. If you prefer to scream and shout and run about, feel free. I just get tired of seeing ill considered opinions and misinterpretations blown into tirades about photographic heresies. This seems to be becoming an increasingly contentious age so perhaps we are all victims of the times. Sad thought.
Don Roberts

Elson T. Elizaga wrote:

Forgive my ignorance and my failure to see. I'm astonished about my comment myself. Sometimes I share with other photographers the same or similar reaction to an admired photograph -- such as "Afghan Girl" by Steve McCurry -- sometimes I don't. In my place, I sometimes find myself watching a movie, such as "Mystic River" (and recently "Beautiful Boxer"), and discovered only less than people with me. But I love these films. I've just been watching "Seven Samurai" and "Hidden Fortress" by Akira Kurosawa (who else?), but I'm not moved -- perhaps, not yet -- by Weston's "Pepper".

I've read some articles about the photograph. But then, it's a photograph, it's supposed to strike us by its being a photograph, not by the volumes of text about it, right?

lookaround360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Elson,

I am astonished by your comment. If you are seriously interested in photography look at a lot of it and read what is being said about it. I just saw a magnificent Weston exhibit and even after decades of seeing
his prints (the real prints)  I was deeply moved by there  clarity of
intent and perfection. Perhaps because he is one of the most imitated
photographers along with Adams his work may not seem special to  you.

I am not bashing Elson,

AZ


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George Orwell


Roger:

I'm all for the avocado. Besides, at the end of the shoot, it's guacamole for all!

Cheers,

Dave

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