>Let's give it a rest, shall we? Rich Well, I can't comment on the peppers because I've only seen them reproduced on line or in magazines. I learned a long time ago that the real thing (a framed, original, silver print) can have a quality of it's own. The subtlety of tones trancends anything copied for the normal printed page. Now with the demise of the real thing (most images viewed only on line) maybe the peppers (however good they are in the flesh) are a thing of the past ... Bob Q ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband from 14.99 with free setup! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/