> To be honest, the noise difference in the 10d from 100 to 400 ISO isn't much and > I hear the newer cameras are even better. Jim The question is though ... are the new sensors better or are they incorporating firmware to do what you used to do with "neatimage" (or whatever)? You know, like top of the range SLRs gave blurry image because they didn't oversharpen the files before you got your hands on them? Probably it's a bit of both. Bob