dave6134@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: > I don't understand why all this sudden whining regarding federal phone > and email snooping. It has been in place for years. Doesn't anyone > remembers Algore's "Clipper chip" endeavor of 1993 or the CALEA > (communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994) of the > Clintinesta regime. I remember the clipper chip endeavor, was active working against it -- and you'll notice it *didn't happen*. So it hasn't "been in place for years". Yeah, the FISA court stuff isn't new -- but what Bush is doing is now *bypassing the FISA court*. That hasn't been in place for years either. > The NSA , the National Security Agency (otherwise known as "No Such > Agency") has tapped phones world wide with huge installations in > Canada, covering eastern Russia and the north pacific, UK for the > north Atlantic and western Europe, Turkey, covering the middle east, > and Australia and New Zealand for Pacific Rim coverage. This is probably illegal and certainly *wrong*. > There has been a special secret court authorizing clandestine > "National Security" wire taps for years which has never refused an FBI > request tap request, ever. This isn't black helicopter and blue helmat > conspiracy nonsense, it is fact. Enter clipper chip and calea on any > search engine for literally millions of articles. It's refused three requests, but I don't think they were from the FBI. They were all pretty much at the same time, and they were post-9/11. > It is amazing how the libdem media was able to ignore fifteen years > ago what it now severely castigates the Bush administration for today. What's *actually happening* today is far worse than what was *attempted* and the relatively small amount put into place back when we had a legitemately elected government. -- David Dyer-Bennet, <mailto:dd-b@xxxxxxxx>, <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/> RKBA: <http://noguns-nomoney.com/> <http://www.dd-b.net/carry/> Pics: <http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/> <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/> Dragaera/Steven Brust: <http://dragaera.info/>