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From: "lea murphy" <lea@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators -
Professionals - Students" <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 2:05
PM
Subject: color space questions
> First of all, thank you to those who responded
to my color management
> question a couple weeks ago, especially karl shah-jenner, as your
> info was most helpful. If you don't mind bearing with me, I have at
> least a couple more questions before I get going as I should.
>
> Let me come clean. I don't really 'get' color management. I'm not
> clear on how all the different 'spaces' and 'profiles' work together
> (is a space the same thing as a profile? See, I really don't get it.)
> and when to apply one.
>
> Let me tell you what I am doing then if you see a weak link in my set-
> up I'd appreciate some direction on how to change it.
>
> I shoot raw + jpg on a Canon 20D set to Adobe RGB color space.
> question a couple weeks ago, especially karl shah-jenner, as your
> info was most helpful. If you don't mind bearing with me, I have at
> least a couple more questions before I get going as I should.
>
> Let me come clean. I don't really 'get' color management. I'm not
> clear on how all the different 'spaces' and 'profiles' work together
> (is a space the same thing as a profile? See, I really don't get it.)
> and when to apply one.
>
> Let me tell you what I am doing then if you see a weak link in my set-
> up I'd appreciate some direction on how to change it.
>
> I shoot raw + jpg on a Canon 20D set to Adobe RGB color space.
OK
>
> I use an imac with a gorgeous 20" screen. This system is calibrated
> using Pantone's spyder. I have set the resulting profile as my
> monitor profile from within system preferences.
>
> I use an imac with a gorgeous 20" screen. This system is calibrated
> using Pantone's spyder. I have set the resulting profile as my
> monitor profile from within system preferences.
OK
>
> In Photoshop I also use that same color space...the one created by my
> spyder (for clarity it's called Lea-spyder).
> In Photoshop I also use that same color space...the one created by my
> spyder (for clarity it's called Lea-spyder).
WRONG ! The monitor color space is not so
good for Photoshop.
You'll beter use Adobe RGB or even
sRGB.
The Adobe RGB has good results for use with
future printings while sRGB is better for monitor
exhibition.
( Monitors have wider color space than
printers.)
>
> So far so good.
>
> Then it all falls apart.
>
> I am using both PSCS2 and Digital Photo Professional to do my raw
> conversions and I am getting them to look absolutely wonderful on my
> monitor. Then I send them to my lab and they look like hell.
>
> So far so good.
>
> Then it all falls apart.
>
> I am using both PSCS2 and Digital Photo Professional to do my raw
> conversions and I am getting them to look absolutely wonderful on my
> monitor. Then I send them to my lab and they look like hell.
Your Lab do not have and do not know your
private color profile: Lea-spyder so he can not mach the
colors.
So he assume some arbitrary color space to
your pictures.
He sure know dealing with sRGB or Adobe RGB
profiles.
>
> I know my lab's Noritsu is set to print in sRGB (as are almost all
> lab printers if I'm not mistaken). In PS should I be converting to sRGB?
>
> I know my lab's Noritsu is set to print in sRGB (as are almost all
> lab printers if I'm not mistaken). In PS should I be converting to sRGB?
Yes, It will be better !
>
> Also, I have downloaded my lab's printer profile and can set that as
> my color space in PS. Should I be doing that?
>
> Also, I have downloaded my lab's printer profile and can set that as
> my color space in PS. Should I be doing that?
Use this only if you send a "print" file. (
a file that was prepared to print with your PS print command. in that case
the lab can't do anything to correct anything. I suggest you do not use it
unless you will be more proffessional with this. )
>
> I am so confused.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks for the help.
> Lea
>
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> lea murphy
> www.whinydogpress.com
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> I am so confused.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks for the help.
> Lea
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> lea murphy
> www.whinydogpress.com
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