Guys, Cibachrome materials are now branded as Ilfochrome Classic--or at least it was three years ago. The chemistry is incredibly stable and If I recall correctly, so is the paper. This stuff is about as archival as any photographic color print material can be. Steve, if I were in the land of OZ, I'd rent a place to store it and keep it for myself. Definitely save the chemistry and the processor--the processor is irreplaceable. Three years ago I bought a "lifetime" supply of 35mm Cibachrome microfilm stock, both perf and non-perf, as well as a supply of chemicals. Other than having a low density (designed for archival color microfilm, not highly saturated chromes for reproduction or large projection), it is very precise in color reproduction providing one controls the color temperature of the lighting, and a precise 0.5 second exposure. Obviously, this is a highly prejudiced personal opinion, but I expect that Cibachrome prints and transparencies will outperform CD-R in longevity. Good Luck, Bill Pettit -----Original Message----- From: Pablo Coronel <pcorone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Jul 6, 2005 10:04 AM To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Anyone still using Cibachrome? In Australia? Dang! I'm several thousand miles away Cibachromes are still the most beautiful prints I've done. Fantastic reds and yellows! I guess al that may still be worht it, specially if you want to learn the intrincancies of this method. I guess the papers may still be good, but they may have developed some color cast. There is nothing wrong with giving them a try and see :) Steve Hodges wrote: > I have just spoken to someone who has a trailor load of cibachrome > paper and chemicals that are going to be sent to waste disposal. > > Apparently the stuff was being used 4 years ago and was stored in a > cool (although not refrigerated) room. > > Oh, there's also a cibachrome processor there too. > > If anyone is prepared to pay the freight on it (or collect it if > they're in Western Australia) it will be their's for the taking. > > Alternatively, if anyone's willing to say that cibachrome paper will > be long past it's use by date if stored this way, speak up (I've not > used cibachrome, but I have my suspicions). > > Loosely speaking, this comes from the estate of a photographer (It's a > bit more complex than that, but it describes why it's happening). > > Steve > > > -- Pablo Coronel Ph.D. Candidate Food Science Department North Carolina State University Room 39 Schaub Hall, Box 7624 Raleigh, NC, 27695 Phone (919) 515-4410 Fax (919) 515-7124 e-Fax (419) 818-7590 e-mail pcorone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www4.ncsu.edu/~pcorone