Re: Kodak B&W Paper Discontinued? Good Ridence.

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Where is John Cremati and what does he do for a living?

Perhaps John can go to Rochester, NY and take over the B&W photographic
paper production.  Unless he has another job.

It would seem, that the idea of a management take-over of such a business
would be of an art to perpetuate an art; and that such take-over would be
well done by the artists for their art.

Sell shares, make paper, sell paper for profit, increase numbers of shares
to sell; or not.

S. Shapiro
----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Niedermayer" <pam@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: Kodak B&W Paper Discontinued? Good Ridence.


I don't intend to be an apologist for Kodak, but perhaps you'd want to make
some second thoughts.

The responsibility of a corporation is to return the highest profit
possible to its shareholders. All the other stuff is to support that
profit machine. So, if n dollars invested in producing y product do not
return as much profit as n dollars invested in x product, the corporation
must consider producing x instead of y. Now a part of that consideration
is how much y product adds to the overall equation, say producing y to
support sales of z, which does return huge profits.

After all, what would you think of a company that continued to make entry
point buggy whips in 1930? Digital is a fact of life, and even Kodak
cannot dispute this fact. Of course, it would be nice if they were to sell
these products to another manufacturer; but I'd suspect they've tried and
come up empty.

Pam

John Cremati wrote:

       These companies make the huge mistake that because a item is not
selling a  billion  dollars worth of every product they make  a year they
should get rid of it seeking only the most profitable
items.............They
do not realize that if they were still selling a lot of the chemicals and
other discontinued items  that I would not only be buying paper from them
but chemicals as well and other supplies as well..........
       Then they move much of their manufacturing to third world
countries
and now they expect me to buy my film from them when they cut off my
paper.....  To top it off  they have  made it extremely difficult for
dealers to buy their product placing huge yearly minimal  quotas on
them....... The small dealer can not meet these quotas........Again, they
are only seeking huge profits............
     When I see this sort of mentality, all though I have rooted for them
in the past  as I am a die hard Kodak Fan, I say  good riddance.....
Hopefully a company will emerge that has a service attitude toward their
customers.... Some things you sell at a break even point, or even a loss
to
keep your customer base strong on other items you manufacture not just
discontinue them.............  Also Maybe selling one box of  50 sheets
8x10
Ectachrome for over "$400"????  has something to do with it as well
......You can not convince me that they can not do small production runs
and
streamline thier marketing toward the small dealer and end  user it
increase
thier market share ..........
      They have been living  on easy street for  to long....   The way I
see it , their heads are in their asses.....
They still do not realize that there  will  always be the die hard
Photographers in the world that will continue to buy these products  no
matter what and they need to gear their operation toward them before they
completely loose them as well..................... Do they really care??
Probably not....







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