> Hang in there and maybe one day you will start controlling the digicam > instead of the digicam controlling you. Dave And one day we will control the beast (MicroSoft) instead of it controlling us? The trend with computers/digital is to protect the user from the detail: next is to completely deny the user access to the detail. Before you know where you are ... the software knows best!. Of course, it's a good policy for all. Less user-generated mistakes. And once you have dumbed down the users, they are less likely to question the need for the next upgrade. {Thinks: it's getting more and more common for "upgrades" to remove formerly included features "by design" only for them to return as paid add-ins]. Of course, you don't want the user to realise how dumb they have become so you feed them little pseudo-tech sounding phrases they can chant ...you tell them that new is better. - "my pixels are beter then yours" - "I have a Digic II processor" The digital world sure has redefined "quality". Q