>Not everyone runs out and buys a new >camera everytime a new model comes out. >And not all digital cameras die in a few years. Russ In the days of heavily encrypted proprietry embedded firmware - wouldn't it be a laugh if some unscrupulous manufacturer actually programmed in obsolescence. Say a routine that progressively added excess noise based on the time since it's last "service" :o) Would be great for business: 100 dollars for a service and instant improvement ... visibly pictures better overnight. Customer happy - shareholders happy. After all, they must have some way of generating revenue when the public finally tire of continually upgrading (or should I say when we reach a "plateau in technological advance". Licensig is possibly the way to go - instead of selling you software you rent it. Makes a lot of sense with the trend towards encrypted file formats ... Mmmmm ... Q ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/