> BTW, the proposed fine is $25 and a transit cop has to see you. That's not > much risk... > Not to belabor this thread much more, but the issue is not getting caught or > paying a fine. Dave The fine does indeed sound a paltry one, but beware of a tactic long used by Governments in the UK. The small fine is probably only the "foot in the door" or "loosener". - -Get the law passed. -Wait for the hubbub to dies down. -Increase the fine / widen the scope of the law. The point is that it's not just a small loss of freedom, it's a precedent. If Joe public let this pass, what's next? Bob