Veli, I disagree that art schools teach craft not Art. Not in the U.S. anyway. Going from a design school to a university art department I was as first appalled that technique and crafting skills were ignored almost completely. I quickly realized my error. There is little time to teach crafting - it is just understood that one must gain a degree of competence. It is the same as universities expecting students to have extensive practical computer skills. There is no room in the academic curriculum for them. I also disagree that artists need a philosophy or need to have something to say. Too much art has half-baked polemics. Art isn't blogging :-) If you mean artist can offer unique insights I do agree. Lastly, I think really good artists and crafters make up their own rules. AZ Build a Lookaround! The Lookaround Book, 2nd ed. NOW SHIPPING http://www.panoramacamera.us > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: My thoughts about art&craft (RE: PF Galleries on 05 FEB 05) > From: "Veli Izzet Cigirgan" <izzet@xxxxxxxx> > Date: Sun, February 06, 2005 10:14 am > To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" > <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Hi all, > > Treading on the fine line.......... > > I always consider an artist as somebody that is creative. Art implies > innovation, creation, difference from the masses. Art can not be taught. Art > does not need to be pleasant or functional. It may even be revolting, > shocking. > > An artist must have a philosophy, must have something to say, must have > questions to ask, may even have some answers. > > Crafts on the other hand is skillful implementation of something. Crafts can > be taught, crafts result in pleasant and functional items (both tangible and > intangible). > > A good craftsmen does not have to be an artist whereas a good artist has to > be good in craftsmanship too. > > Craftsmanship is the way that an artist communicates through. They do not > teach art in art schools, they teach craftsmanship. > > Craftsmanship needs rules; rules of thirds, the golden section, horizontal > horizons, etc. Art does not have to follow any rules, though art may create > some rules for the craftsman to follow. > > Regards, > Veli Izzet Cigirgan > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marilyn > > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 2:57 AM > > To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students > > Subject: Re: PF Galleries on 05 FEB 05 > > > > Craft (not art) now on display at > > > http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/gallery.html includes: > > > > > > I'm just curious and I've often wondered (I'm sure this has > > been discussed > > on Photoforum before, but I've got to ask). How do you > > differentiate > > between art and crafts, Bob? There seems to be a very fine line for > > separating the two and now that I'm involved in visual arts > > other than photography (sculpture, painting, etc.) it is > > often times very difficult to decide which item is art and > > which is a craft item. > > > > I'd really appreciate hearing from other members how they > > divide the two areas. > > > > Marilyn > > ________________________________ > > > > Leave gentle fingerprints on the > > soul of another for the angels to read. > > > > Proverb > > __________________________________ > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 03.02.2005 > > > >
