Re: Art vs craft was PF Galleries

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Hello Walt,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question. I appreciate it very much.

I think you are right - "art" and "craft" is in the eye of the beholder. I've asked the question (What is art?) to several professional artists and they have told me in so many words, "I can't explain it, but I know it (art) when I see it." Some responding in this way have Ph.D's in the arts.

I enjoy your answer to my question very much and it makes perfect sense (if only more things in life "made perfect sense," huh?).

In answer to your last question - I have been a craft photographer (being paid for projects) for 25 years and am now entering the art (doing it for the love of it) end of photography. I am also taking oil painting classes, going back to printing non-silver prints, teaching photography classes (a brand new endeavor - I'm nervous), making handmade paper products (cards, portfolios, wall hangings etc. - definitely a craft, but some items are selling at a gift shop) and writing and facilitating a writer's group.

I am involved with several art galleries and a couple of art-related organizations, which has caused me to consider "what is art?" and what is "craft?" more seriously.

I've enjoyed our discussion.   Thank you.

Marilyn
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Marilyn,

I'm not Bob, but your question is a good one and it got me to thinking. It is "food for thought" and probably has no definitive answer.

Does the difference between art and craft "lie in the eye of the beholder"?

I am 68 and all my life I have been involved in the arts and the crafts. I was an Art Major in college. I spent one memorable summer in Maine at the Haystack Mountain School of Crafts. I then went on to study commercial photography at the Art Center College of Design in LA. This is my viewpoint on the difference between art and craft.

Art is painting, drawing, sculpture, and sometimes photography. The function of art is to please the mind.

A craft is the manufacture of a product that has some sort of utilitarian nature attached to it. Woodworking, weaving, glass blowing, ceramics, most photography for pay, etc are crafts.

The problem of definition between art and craft, be it a pleasurable one, is that a skilled craft person's work can transcend being just a utilitarian object and can be so pleasing to the eye that it becomes art.

As an example - photography- if you make pictures of ribbon cutting ceremonies or portraits or factories for annual reports, your photography is a craft. The subject matter is such that your photography is just a craft. Ansel Adams used to take such photographs. As such he was a skilled craftsman. However, as a landscape photographer he transcended from a skilled craftsman to an artist.
His factory photographs had a function. They were published in annual reports and trade magazines. He was paid for this work as a craftsman. His magnificent landscapes really had no function other than to please the eye and reveal the glory of nature. His unique interpretations of what he saw and felt and his superb photographic skills made him an artist. He was paid for his well-known landscapes as an artist. At least I hope he was.


So my own viewpoint on the difference between art and craft is rather cut and dried, but I will always think of a coffee table by George Nakashima or a weaving by Jack Lenor Larsen as art. However, to some, a coffee table is just a coffee table, and a weaving is just a piece of cloth!

BTW Marilyn, are you painting and sculpting at an art school or a crafts school?

Walter

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On Saturday, February 5, 2005, at 07:56 PM, Marilyn wrote:


Craft (not art) now on display at
http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/gallery.html includes:


I'm just curious and I've often wondered (I'm sure this has been discussed on Photoforum before, but I've got to ask). How do you differentiate between art and crafts, Bob? There seems to be a very fine line for separating the two and now that I'm involved in visual arts other than photography (sculpture, painting, etc.) it is often times very difficult to decide which item is art and which is a craft item.

I'd really appreciate hearing from other members how they divide the two areas.

Marilyn
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Leave gentle fingerprints on the
soul of another for the angels to read.

                                               Proverb
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