Sorry Don, As a registered socialist I had to be sarcastic while in the midst of a neo-christian conservative, bordering on McCarthy-esque fascist, movement that re-elected the current administration. Though an honorable social experiment, like any other alternative lifestyle (like the Sufis in the Middle East, the Mormons were a little too wierd for the status quo as well) they would be labeled, outcast, and misunderstood as I'm sure they were (even before whiskey totin' Joe). I'm interested to know if their cohesion was ideological or theological in practice. Most successful isolated communities were religiously bound. Unfortunately, the Shakers had a rule that scripted their end, but they seemed to do well for themselves as an example. enjoy...trevor cunningham --- Don Roberts <droberts@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Bob Talbot wrote: > > Stuff on display at > http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/gallery.html include: > > > > Don Roberts - As They Passed > > http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/gallery/droberts.html > > <<Since they were communal, most things were owned > by the society. > > There were no family plots; each person was given > the next grave site > > in the line as they died.>> > > As with Emily's picture next: I don't want to > comment on this as if it > > was inteded to be pictorial; alongside the text > it's a snippet of > > micro-history. Is there a differecne between > communal and communist? > > A semantic nuance I suspect. > > > Were they persecuted under McCarthy? > > They had dissolved the communal nature of the > society a generation > before McCarthy and his atrocities began. > > As a picture of graves this > > does not have the impact of those war graves from > Nothern France > > Not many pictures carry the emotional baggage of > those photos. Or > places. > > Maybe > > there is too much space between the tombstones. > The levels look a bit > > washed out on my monitor. > > Actually, this was a quickie submitted to help the > Gallery fill > space. The original is in color and I have never > been happy with > it. I tried a quick BW conversion, liked it better > but sent it > before I really had a chance to view and tweak as > much as I would > have liked to. > Don > > As an aside I have to comment that I am still > puzzling over Trevor's > comment about "dead commies. How patriotic." > Paraphrased. How was > that meant? Was it as snide as it came across. I > expected more > from that review. I let it slide for a while but > now have to > mention it. This was a communal society, not > Stalinesque or Maoist. > Many communes have existed in the past; are they > all subjects of > hatred or scorn. I see them as noble experiments > that don't meet > the test of human nature. > > > -- > ====================================================== > Don Roberts * Bittersweet Productions * Iowa City, > IA > * * > Our lives begin to end the day we become silent > about things that > matter. -- Martin Luther King > ======================================================= > > ===== "The optimist believes this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it's true" - J Robert Oppenheimer http://www.geocities.com/tr_cunningham __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250