I have to admit I don't really know if that's true. I was advised that by the networking guys, and accepted it as the whole truth :) ... I try not to apply too much logic with Windows, and anyway I've had empty desktops (except for shortcuts I might put in temporarily) for so long, I never got a chance to verify that little titbit... Apologies if I am spreading more lies and untruths... (but it's election time in Australia) About the backups, I should have been clearer. The Desktop sits outside of what the user sees (My Documents). It's counter-intuitive to have a place called "My Documents" and put things outside this space. The standard backup (the wizard anyway) doesn't back it up... only the user's My Documents folder. Me, I don't like to mix my documents with the OS, so it's on another partition (they squabble for swap space), and i use a simple program (Syncback, freeware) to make an identical copy to an external drive. I prefer this solution to a proprietary solution that requires me to backup/restore... I wound up with some strange configuration after years of trying out manufacturer's recommended setups, elaborate third-party configurations, above-mentioned systems admins, and finally wound up with a very simple setup that lets me concentrate on my work (surfing the net) and not worry about the machines. Still, I probably shouldn't talk about computers... just trubble... Best, Deen 2004-08-31 22:20:54 -- Deen Hameed 0405 649 101 deenhameed@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.deenhameed.blogspot.com http://calendar.yahoo.co.uk/deenhameed At 2004-08-31, 07:21:48 Jeff Spirer (jeff@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: >At 01:56 PM 8/30/2004, Deen Hameed wrote: >>In Windows at least, stuff on the desktop gets loaded into memory... > >I don't know where you get this from. I do have some things on the Desktop >and they certainly aren't loaded into memory or running. Things only get >loaded into memory if they are startup items, started items, or processes >called by the system. I've seen systems with so much stuff on the Desktop >that it would crash the largest system imaginable if that was true. The >items on the Desktop are stored in the "Documents and Settings" sub-folder >that belongs to each user on the system. > >>also it doesn't get backed so obviously (a pain given that it's sitting >>right there in front of you) so my desktop is empty, except for maybe >>temporary shortcuts. > >If you mean "backed up", it gets backed up when the Documents and Settings >folder is backed up, which should happen with any standard backup. > >FWIW, I just put shortcuts on the desktop, except with certain items I >haven't decided to locate somewhere. Everything else sits in the standard >hierarchical file system, but the things that have immediate need often >have shortcuts on the Desktop. > >I've used both Windows and Mac systems for the last ten years and, at this >point, find very little difference except that my son can't get any of the >good computer games for the Mac. > > >Jeff Spirer >Photos: http://www.spirer.com >One People: http://www.onepeople.com/ >Surfaces and Marks: http://www.withoutgrass.com > ___ END OF QUOTED TEXT ___