>Thanks for that, but its been back to the shop twice at ?25 each time. Each >time they said "software... we tried it on a new hard disk with only xp and >nero ... it was ok." Tech support in the 21st century http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20040731.html Chris Remind me. Have you tried writing CDs at a ridiculously slow speed, say 2X or 4X? I'm still puzzled why it should stop at the same place both when writing directly to disk and after writing to a disk image first. Bob __________________________________________________________________ Get Tiscali Broadband From £15:99 http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband