That picture indeed is intimidating. Poor photographer - guess I would have cringed with horror! I must admit that, in this case, I'd find it a bit unfair to extract his image... In any case, your message made me look up Eisenstaedt/Eisie on the net - a fascinating life and many interesting glimpses at the past. Laurenz > I like your choices for possible subjects a lot! How about this?: ----- Original Message ----- From: <lookaround360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 1:19 AM Subject: RE: Meta Photography? The image within a picture... > Laurenz, > > I don't think the photographer's intention matters when it comes to > ownership. I get a lot of stuff in my pics I didn't see when I made > them :-) > > I like your choices for possible subjects a lot! How about this?: > > http://www.life.com/Life/eisie/eisie02.html > > It's that scary Eisie pic of Joseph Goebbles. > > AZ > > Build a Lookaround! > The Lookaround Book, 2nd ed. > NOW SHIPPING > http://www.panoramacamera.us > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > > Subject: Meta Photography? The image within a picture... > > > > From: "Laurenz" <enquiries@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Date: Fri, July 30, 2004 12:28 pm > > > > To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" > > > > <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > According to the New York Times (not posted on April 1), it is now > > possible > > > > to find out what exactly a person was looking at if you just analyse a > > > > high-quality photo including the eyes. > > > > > > > > 'Shree K. Nayar, a professor of computer science and co-director of the > > > > Columbia Vision and Graphics Center, took high-resolution photographs of > > > > people that include their eyes and, in particular, the transparent part > > of > > > > the eye called the cornea. Then, with a postdoctoral researcher, Ko > > Nishino, > > > > he devised computer algorithms that analyze the images reflected in > > these > > > > natural mirrors, revealing a wealth of information ... > > > > Dr. Nishino and Dr. Nayar plan to try their corneal imaging system with > > > > archival photographs. "It will be fascinating to go back and look at > > > > photographs of important people like John Kennedy," Dr. Nayar said. > > "From a > > > > single image of the eye, we may be able to figure out what was around > > him > > > > and what he was looking at.' > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/29/technology/circuits/29next.html?ex=1248753600 > > > > > > > > So, when you take your next portrait, just think that you may actually > > also > > > > produce an image of yourself, the photographer! > > > > Adjust your clothes before pushing the trigger and wear dark sunglasses > > when > > > > someone takes a photo of you in surroundings you do not want the world > > to > > > > see... > > > > One further interesting aspect: who owns the copyright to an image > > extracted > > > > from a photo? > > > > > > > > Laurenz > > > > http://www.onlinephotogalleries.com/ > > > >