There is also also a lot of totally free user-supported software, eg GNU GIMP, for photo editing, as well as commercial sample software. Do some searching on "open source" or software with a GNU license. Take a look at http://Sourceforge.net Often the software has been developed on Linux or BSD, but has been ported to run on Windoze. tOM On Wednesday, April 07, 2004 at 9:36, Pablo Coronel <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Is the software for educational / personal use? > Are you sure it was not developed by the professor himself? > > In the first case it is not piracy in the strict sense of the word. > Just rememeber that not many students are as fortunate and you and > coudn't afford $500 in software for a class. > > As someone mentioned most of the educatinal packages are either crippled > or time activated (ie. don;t work after XXX days) and are a great > promotional tool for software companies, since you "learn" to use the > program, you become "addicted" to it and will buy a full version when > you are ready. > > At 10:56 AM 4/6/04, you wrote: > >Fellow Forum Members, > > > >Since the beginning of the year, I have been taking a college class on > >Digital Photography via the I'net. I was excited, as it was my first > >college-level class. It did not quite meet all my expectations, as it > >really seemed to be pitched toward what I considered an early > >high-school level of scholarship. The text book, however, Ben Long's > >_Complete Digital Photography (Second Edition)_, was pretty complete; > >dated (as any text has to be), but pretty complete. > > > >But I was not taking the class for the digital learning. I knew at > >least as much about digital photography as the instructor. I was in the > >class just to have an official course under my belt, AND to have my > >photos analyzed and discussed by someone who knew photography much > >better than I. I looked forward to criticism, as we grow only by making > >and correcting mistakes. My first submission was well analyzed. The > >rest were merely praised. That was another slight disappointment. > >Still, I was enjoying the course with a solid A (possibly the highest > >grade in the class). > > > >UNTIL > > > >The instructor gave away to anyone in the class who wanted one a burned > >copy of his personal image correction software. At least that is how it > >seemed to me. > > > >I immediately withdrew from the class and asked for a refund of my > >tuition. To me, this was institutionalized software piracy and I could > >no longer participate in the class in any way. I REALLY wanted the > >credit, but I felt the ethics involved were more important than the > >credit. > > > >The Query > > > >Was I wrong in this this? Is this how it is done in colleges and > >universities now? Am I behind the times? > > > >While this query is directed basically toward the academic instructors > >on the list, I would appreciate comments from anyone. If I was wrong, > >let me know and I will consider it just another learning experience, > >although I am not sure it will lead to personal growth, just > >understanding. > > > >Query II > > > >Does anyone know of any photo classes at the univerisity level that can > >be taken via the I'net? (Assuming I am not now blackballed by all > >colleges and universities throughout the world)? Or better yet, are > >there any MFAs being offered? > > > >Thanks for any input. > > > >peace > > > >rand > > Pablo Coronel > Ph.D. Candidate > Food Science Department > North Carolina State University > Room 39 Schaub Hall, Box 7624 > Raleigh, NC, 27695 > > Phone (919) 515-4410 > Fax (919) 515-7124 > e-Fax (419) 818-7590 > e-mail pcorone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www4.ncsu.edu/~pcorone > > > ------- Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur ------- ,__@ tOM Trottier +1 613 231-6115 _-\_<, 758 Albert St.,Ottawa ON Canada K1R 7V8 (*)/'(*) N45.412 W75.714 <a href="http://Abacurial.com">Abacurial Information Architecture</a> --------------- I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. -Thomas Jefferson 1743-1826)