> Just give up folks. Photography is dead. Anyone > still peering through a viewfinder (or, even worse, > lurking under a darkcloth) is either delusional or a > tired old fraud. So true. Photography is dead. Long live Imaging! Bob As to digital photographs being forensically *more* secure. That's BS. Maybe it's easy to spot a crude collage but if digital noise has a predictable pattern (that the experts can detect) then believe me those same experts could superimpose that pattern on a fake making it a genuine fake ;o) Film fakes are just as easy to spot - Andy ????