I like and use the Bogen (not Avenger) and PIC, the PIC stands are not very sturdy but fold very small and will adequately support a Vivitar 283 with slave for fill lighting on location. The Bogen's get used with my monolights. darkroommike ---------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emily L. Ferguson" <elf@cape.com> To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" <photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:54 PM Subject: light stands again > OK. Given that I don't like the turtle legs and anyway the Matthews > light stands are too expensive this year, what's next on the schedule > of goodness for such items. > > Got an opinion, Bobbert? > > or anyone else? > -- > Emily L. Ferguson > mailto:elf@cape.com > 508-563-6822 > New England landscapes, wooden boats and races, press photography > http://www.vsu.cape.com/~elf >