No. At least not the way you express it, Greg. A pinhole doesn't have a focal length - Brian You are so out of date. You will be telling us next that focal length of a lens does not change when you switch "film" formats ;o) Of course pinholes have focal lengths - how else could you focus them? It's just that any one pinhole has lots of focal lengths, all positive. SnapperBob __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.