Steve, So sorry that I offended you. Or perhaps simply infuriated you. Such was not my intention. And I think you miss the point. I got the feeling that Dave was talking about a personal, not legal, definition of "exploitation." I was under the impression that he, personally, felt that he was exploiting someone else on a private level. There are legal concerns, which you addressed, but there are also concerns we each must cope with inside ourselves. These are our personal morals. My feeling was that Dave was struggling at that level, not the legal argument that so infuriated you. But the good thing is that your note prompted a flurry of other notes that helped to clarify the legal side of the issue. Please try to find it in yourself to forgive my "ignorant attitude." And thanks to Bob, Dave and Leslie for educating me without chastising me further. peace and pixels, rand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Shapiro" <sgshiya@redshift.com>Subject: > Re: Brighton Beach Brooklyn and exploitation | Everytime I see this subject come up, it infuriates me. This ignorant | attitude inhibits photographers from making some potentially great pictures. | <snip> | S. Shapiro | ----- Original Message ----- | From: rand flory | Dave, | | Any time you photograph a person without their permission (even if it is | granted later), it is probably a form of "exploitation." When a person is in | a situation by circumstance rather than by choice, you, the photographer, | could possibly feel this more deeply than normal. | | But I don't think you exploit someone unless you put them in a bad light. | You did not do that with "Brighton Beach Brooklyn." Getting these folks all | bundled up and moved onto the street took a lot of effort on somebody's | part. It would have been so much easier just to have allowed them to stay | inside. So the feeling is that they wanted to be there and someone cared | enough to put them there. | | This is, to me anyway, a celebration. A celebration emphasized by the | background even if is meant for a different crowd. | | Great shot! | | peace and pixels, | | rand | ----- Original Message ----- | <snip> | | I wanted to get some feedback,because although I like the photograph, I | felt that it might be construed as exploitive. | | | <snip> |