Mamiya 645 AFD sounds like good contender, I will look into it. I am not against going with a RF on this either. Been shooting all formats to 8x10. Bronica is the workhorse, still will shoot that system. Just need a AF for those tired eye times coming along so often. Am thinking no one here wants to discuss that... : ) Thanks for all the input Lea, Luis, Rob! -Bobbie