Another idea would be a dilute potassium ferricyanide bleach bath to "clear" the highlights. Would put a little sparkle back in the high tones. darkroommike ---------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Seibert" <dougseibert2001@yahoo.com> To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" <photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Discount Paper > Mike..........Good observations there....... > > I'll just add that printing borderless prints will > sometimes allow a successful image......the white > edges will quickly show the "dirty" borders......... > > Greg ........that paper must be getting pretty > old.........I usually don't find dates on B&W paper > these days........ > > > --- Mike King <mikeking@cableone.net> wrote: > > IMHO paper grain does not get visibly bigger with > > age but you will see > > higher fog levels unless you add restrainers to the > > developer, in which case > > sensitivity goes down. Again, just my opinion (and > > it's more an impression > > and I haven't done the research to put numbers to > > this), developer > > incorporated papers such as Polycontrast III, > > Multigrade Rapid, etc. age > > faster than non-developer incorporated ones, VC > > papers age faster than > > graded (or contrast changes faster with age), and RC > > papers age faster than > > FB. Contrast seems to go down as fog levels go > > up--just what I would expect > > since I sometimes use a sub-threshold fogging > > exposure (a.k.a. a post flash > > exposure) to lower image contrast. > > darkroommike > > > > ---------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gregory Fraser" <Gregory.Fraser@pwgsc.gc.ca> > > To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - > > Professionals - Students" > > <photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 1:02 PM > > Subject: Discount Paper > > > > > > > I've seen film that is seriously outdated and it > > had huge grain. I presume > > this is due to age and the emulsion losing its > > sensitivity to light. I'm > > wondering if the emulsion on paper is basically the > > same as the emulsion on > > film and if outdated paper exhibits the same > > characteristics. > > > > > > I ask because I have yet to deplete my first > > package of photographic paper > > which is outdated Kodak RC. I'm printing 120 > > negatives and I feel that the > > images should be sharper and less grainy than they > > are. > > > > > > Greg Fraser > > > Master of Funk > > > http://users.imag.net/~lon2251/Gallery > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo > http://search.yahoo.com >
