From: "andrew fildes" <afildes@netlink.com.au> > Offensive Yes, truth can be like that. If truth offends you, you may wish to step back from your monitoe to prevent discomforting enlightenment. > and hysterically inaccurate. Absolutely accurate and you've not demonstrated otherwise. Your merely stating so does not make it so and is therefore not an argument, merely an opinion. For a person so concerned with appearing the intellectual, you should know this. > Many countries, including > mine, have more recent and carefully thought out and designed > democracies than the US. Nonsense. You have republics (yes, that's the word, republics) different from the US form and with the only significant difference being that they are designed to give your executive more power than that given the US president. Again, merely stating an opinion does not make it so. > This is the kind of stuff that makes Americans seem so unintelligent elsewhere. And this is important, why? We are not suffering from some national form of narcissim that we should base our views and decisions on what you think of Americans. > Here is another example. > > The British speech (Lt.Col Tim Collins) > "If you are ferocious in battle, remember to be magnanimous in victory. > We go to liberate, not to conquer. We are entering Iraq to free a people, > and the only flag that will be flown in that ancient land is their own. > Don't treat them as refugees, for they are in their own country. If there > are casualties of war, then remember, when they woke up and got dressed in > the morning they did not plan to die this day. Allow them dignity in death. > Bury them properly and mark their graves. You will be shunned unless your > conduct is of the highest, for your deeds will follow you down history. Iraq > is steeped in history. It is the site of the Garden of Eden, of the Great > Flood and the birth of Abraham. Tread lightly there." > > The US speech (Vice Admiral Timothy Keating) > "When the president says 'Go', look out - it's hammer time" (followed by We > Will Rock You at high volume) Yes. And he was speaking of the Saddam and His Republican Guard, not the Iraqi people. You chose to ignore ALL the speaches simmilar to that of Lt.Col Collins by many persons both Military and Civillians. You choose to ignore (or are ignorant of) the speaches and instructions given to US troups. Given your previous crap, I expect the operative word here is ignorant. This is curable. Wake up. Bob... -------------------------------------------- "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" -Martin Luther > >You missed the whole point, no doubt because your point of view looks to > >support itself. The point was not about "obligation". In fact, neither > >obligation nor any thing remotely like it was implied. The points were that > >much of Western Europe: > > > >1.) Has no sense of the lessons of their own history. > > > >2.) Are (unspoken epithet) who themselves connected WWII with today by > >desecrating the graves of fallen American and British soldiers for sake of > >opposition to this war thereby revealing their true character. > > > >3.) Rush to attribute evil motives to those who have only shown them > >good. > > > >4.) Have a different, less enlightened value system wherein they value > >life more than liberty. Valuing liberty over life for the sake of your > >nations' childrens' childrens' children is selfless. Valuing one's life or > >one's neighbor's life over liberty leads many to subjugation, repression, > >purges, ethnic cleansing and the death of millions. > > > >Many in Western Europe are like the fellow who does nothing while hearing > >and seeing an evil neighbor beating his child to death while his bloody, > >battered wife can only look on. In fact, this fellow trades with the evil > >neighbor, selling him knives, brass knuckles and night sticks. When this > >fellow sees another neighbor headed for the batter-killer's house to put a > >stop to the the evil goings on and perhaps save the boy, he chastizes the > >other neighbor saying he should stay out of it. He says they should have > >another (the seventeenth) neighborhood meeting about the batter-killer > >first. He further says he (with veto power) will oppose any hindering of > >this evil fellow in his own house. (This is my view of the majority of > >Western Europe.) Moreover, he says that if the other neighbor does > >interfere, he hopes the batter-killer kills him. (This is 33% of France.) A > >man of character, however, does what is right regardless of the ebb and flow > >of the opinions of others. > > > >It's that simple. > > > >That's my opinion. I am well aware that many in Western Europe will not like > >it, and nearly as many will not like me for expressing it. I don't give a > >damn. > > > >Now for a comment on photojournalism. I am about 99% sure that this is my > >son. > >http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030327/capt.1048772132.iraq_nor t > >hern_war_xhs102.jpg
