Gregory, I forgot to tell that the photos on the covers of both websites were made using natural available light. The first one at http://glemastoneware.com were made with light from the window. These items were randomly placed on a bed. I just moved some of them slightly. Also, the photo of Clemens Wirth in the inside pages -- it shows him touching one stoneware item -- was made using available light from two windows. But all the stoneware pieces with graduated green and plain white background were shot using the set I made, but not directly. The flash and modeling lamp were pointed to two pieces of white boards, to produce a softer, bounced illumination. In most cases, I would place a small aluminum foil reflector also somewhere near the shadowed area, to lessen the contrast, or to create a subtle reflection on the subject. A 45-watt bulb is sufficient to create shadows, even a 30-watt, depending on the distance of your white boards. Also this set up can be dismantled, of course. I can remove the bulb and flash set from the tripod, and put the set on a table. I find this equipment very useful for product shots covering an area of about 3 feet in width only. Haven't tried it for portraits, yet. Elson Gregory david Stempel wrote: > Elson, > > Interesting setup. The image on the webpage of the stoneware, was lit with > the two flashes mentioned? The bulb used in your demo was sufficient to give > the overall lighting affect for shadows? > > Take care, > Gregory david Stempel > FIREFRAMEi m a g i n g