In view of comments about my question, America seems a very healthy climate to do photography. Photography is getting muddy over here. I've been taking photos of buildings for English Heritage and someone has made an issue of it. Street photography is legal here but we are regarded with much suspicion and it is not good to be seen snapping in the street. Studios have to be licensed with a special one where glamour or artistic nude photography is to be carried out. Telephoto lenses are illegal and photography has to be carried out in a public place or on your own property (unless you are given the owners permission), I needed permission to photograph non cultivated plants and wild animals on National Trust land, even so my attempts to snap bugs on leaves with close-up attachments was regarded with suspicion and my camera bag was mistaken for a gun holster and I had to bear an armed police challenge and search. I dare not snap other people's children or have a child in any street photo for fear of being arrested as a paedophile. A few of men and women I drew at the life drawing class told me that they had been accused of a minor offence and said they were innocent. That is why they were doing community service. We were also given some instruction on hypnotism relating to this particular model. I found it unpleasant and stressful. One lady confessed to us and was then put in a different category. I understand that hypnotism is being taught in schools here. I do not understand hypnotism and I do not know how to do it. However in colleges it is used on many subjects for student's models taken from the students. Professional glamour models are too expensive for the colleges. However it is taught by demonstration and word of mouth, no record nor any written account is made. No one has been successfully sued as a result. The subjects are selected by taking people unwilling to take part. Officially there is no hypnosis. Chris mailto:nimbo@ukonline.co.uk http://www.chrissdomain.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu [mailto:owner-photoforum@listserver.isc.rit.edu]On Behalf Of rand flory Sent: 18 January 2003 18:57 To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students Subject: Re: PF member's exhibits on Jan 11, 2003 ----- Original Message ----- | I anyone who used "hypnotism" to convince women to pose nude for him | is courting jail time. | | dan c. Maybe, maybe not. Folks seem to have strange views about hypnotism. But experts in the field will tell you that you CANNOT make anyone do anything they do not want to do. I suspect that if hypnosis is used in this type of setting, it is used only to allow someone to relax who has previously agreed to pose. I have a friend who regularly poses for figure study classes. She does not mind doing it (in fact she says it is "exhilarating"), but she cannot do it without medication for stage fright. Hypnosis is perhaps the non-clinician's Xanax. peace, rand