> Are memorable art and a memorable photograph the same thing? > Answer 1: "Yes" > Answer 2: "No" Answer 3: "It depends". The construction of the question leads to ambiguity: a good example as to why grammar still has a plaice in the 21th centurion. "Are" and "a" ... "the" .... ? > Well, the trouble is, what is art? Making a really good record photo of > a plant leaf is an art in itself; doesn't that make the result a work of > art? So define art appropriately, and get whatever answer you like. I > feel that this sort of discussion inevitably ends as navel-gazing For me the fact it is such an unanswerable question adds to my interest rather than detracts from it. People, myself too, use the word without really understanding. Is it just a tag - added to add value to a piece of craft work? Why is thin (fine ;o) art considered to be superior? At school we had art and music - now they are both arts. But the painter calls himself an artist. A month or two back I did a fair bit of searching: there were as many different definitions as thier were quotes. What is the difference between a photograph and a piece of photographic art? 10000 dollars??? (They *are* > art, for goodness sake, because one element of them is composition, and > that's a whole chapter in that book Christiane recommended, which is > definitely about art.) Nah, you were right first time - they were just records. It took no creativity to make them, just observation and skill. > I don't really think this is true (I don't really think there *is* a > "problem" with the reviewing); most reviewers are able to see that some > photographs are intended to be "read" differently from others, and by > and large comment appropriately. Well, maybe in a way that comes with experience and a knowlege of the artist <G> / photographer. For regular gallery contributors new submissions can be looked at against the background of what they have shown before and what they have said. If there is a problem (albiet a minor one) it is for unknowns who contibute sommat ... questionable. Is Roderic's image this week an accidental double exposure? Does David not know the rule of thirds? This week we have a clock shot - Brian van den Broek - WTF is is about? One thought springs to mind, Is it a wind up? On the face of it its just a badly taken joke. But then, what was Jeff's clock two weeks (?) ago that recieved some rave reviews? Personally - I hate it ... so perhaps it is art ... Bob Sorry, mustn't ramble: I feel you are > taking the meaning of "art" too narrowly. > > > Brian Chandler > ---------------- > geo://Sano.Japan.Planet_3 > Jigsaw puzzles from Japan at: > http://imaginatorium.org/shop/ > >