Hi Greg, I see you got your feet wet, so to speak. Darkroom work is exciting. Have fun with your new venture. Now you can make the print the way your want it...that's the fun part. Now you really know the other part of the photographic process. And above all be patient, it gets better. Bill Ellis wb9cac@attbi.com By the way I finally got around to trying to print my own photos last night. It was an extremely humbling experience and I only got one even half way decent print. Actually its only relatively decent compared to the other almost totally black ones and the wildly crooked ones (must build that safelight). I had my chemicals in a heated water bath that was at 68 degrees when I started. What I didn't realize was that the heater had not reached its cut-off limit and continued heating until the water got to 74 degrees. That was just one thing that went wrong but it was probably the biggest thing.