well, since i cannot hide anymore behind the mask of anonymity, it's tiem to commet on the submited image. i almost cheated by submiting a 2 years old image of mine, coming from my 4th film ever shot. i really cannot rated it, but 3 years latter i don't think i progressed alot anyway, i was tempted to do so by a fellow list member that expected a rock concert image from me....no no no, i do photograph other things when i find something to... but elements of my technique can still be found. notice the tendency to put the subject dead center, and the preference towards closing up into an element of the scene, disregarding the surroundings funny thing is that there were three reviewers that attributed Andy's image to me! BTW, i think there would be a prize for the least discovered submissions wonder how talbot,blazy,jernigan,sinclair,cigirgan and me are gonna share it... cheers all, kostas =============================================== so... no matter what, CHEER UP MY FRIENDS! Life is too precious to jump the other side of the fence... kostas papakotas / clenched teeth photography http://groups.msn.com/clenchedteethphotography/home.htm 'COS SOMETIMES IT IS BETTER WITH CLENCHED TEETH! _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp