i'm a frequent visitor of the Macedonian Museum Of Contemrorary Art in salonica city, but this time it was different for me. the museum houses photo excibitions from time to time, and currently houses a Herbert List one. it was a revelation for me. it was the lesson on dominant lines and axis that i was never given. the man is a fool for strong multiple verticals like in: http://www.mbam.qc.ca/en_cours/hlist1.html or crossovering diagonals like in : http://www.mbam.qc.ca/en_cours/hlist4.html there was a photo of a young man that has one leg spread horizontally, the other bent in a reversed V shape with one hand paralel to the first leg resting on the bent knee. a multiple Z configuration. what a rage of lines! anyway if one could access a good site with lots of List's photos will see many taken in the pre-WWII Greece, with both portrait and antiquites ones. a simple google search brought these web sites: http://www.patrimoine-photo.org/dhtml-us/actu/expositions/list/presentation.html http://www.ccchronicle.com/back/2001-11-12/arts1.html http://www.binbooks.com/books/photo/i/l/5B316AF0D7 in french http://www.mbam.qc.ca/presse/list.html http://www.cyberpresse.ca/reseau/arts/0201/art_102010059902.html in german http://www.ifa.de/a/a1/foto/da1slsbi.htm http://www.dhm.de/ausstellungen/endeanf/list_bio.html in italian http://www.photology.com/impero/100al2000/19001950/testi/t87.html and the highly suggested: http://www.mbam.qc.ca/en_cours/herbertlist.html a Macedonian Museum Of Contemrorary Art web presentation (badly outdated) can be found at: http://artprisma.gr/mouseia_xoroi1.asp?lang=en&id=5 and do not be intimidated by the"The page is under construction " sign, the directories work fine to browse (have a look at the Takis collection with the functioning iron&magnet sculptures) i rest for ever influenced, kostas =============================================== so... no matter what, CHEER UP MY FRIENDS! Life is too precious to jump the other side of the fence... kostas papakotas / clenched teeth photography http://groups.msn.com/clenchedteethphotography/home.htm 'COS SOMETIMES IT IS BETTER WITH CLENCHED TEETH! _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com