From: *-CHILLED DELIRIUM-* <sfunp@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> > bad thing i did not had teh chance to measure the true stops of the manual >lenses in a lab... Most people worry far too much about that. In most tests, it is far less than 1/3 f/. Negligible. Few people can interpret metering to that degree of accuracy. well the few tests i did aiming both lense at 80-90 range at the same grey wall, showed both manuals giving me a faster speed (+1 stop)than the pentax original,at all apertures excluding the f/5.6 to f/8 that were giving me 1,5 stop more speed > - not ususally, and i do not want it...it lighte up all teh satge with all >the ugly deatil (defects in the back curtain, kills the projection on the >wall, sends light to the silver tape that hoplds the cables in >place....sucks - hmm from 1/4 to 1/125 sec at best WHat film are you using ? various...x-press 800 or superia 1600, TMY, neopan 400 pushed 1600, neopan 1600, lately HP5+ pushed 3200, and i push at 3200 if the light is unfavorable... tahnks for the photgrapher's block tips, they proved helpful....more in another msg...kostas _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com