hi all! i just purchased (for almost nothing) an old russian screw-mount Jupiter lense, and i wonder if you have prior experience with such lenses. it is a 85mm f/2 one, very compact(short) with a too bulbous front element, a 49mm filter size, and a reverse set up.(focusing ring close to the camera, then the stop-down ring, then the aperture selection one.)obvioulsy the glass is uncoated.oh yes, it is a manual focus one. it is just the lense i need for the distances i shoot concerts these days. and is the only way i could get a a f/2 cheap. that cheap that i won't mind usinf it for paper weight if it proves to be a fluke. i donot know if it is used 'cos the plastic cylindrical box and the lense itself smell of grease. in fact there is old grease between the elements module and the rest of the lense body which screw off. there are even traces of grease among the 14 shutter leafs. i ahd no chance to shoot a test roll with it but i did mount the body on the tripod and run a comparison test with all my lenses. here are the results: f/22 f/16 f/11 f/8 f/5.6 f/4 f/3.5 f/2.8 f/2 jupiter 85mm = -- 1/15 1/30 1/90 1/180 1/350 -- 1/1000 1/1500 makinon @85mm=1/8 1/15 1/30 1/90 1/180 -- 1/750 -- -- pentax @80mm=1/15 1/30 1/60 1/125 1/250 -- -- -- -- note that the shutter speeds run close with my jupiter and makinon ones, and are one stop faster than the pentax(though in practice overexposure of 1 stop is needed for the makinon). also note the ONE and a HALF stop difference between f/11 and f/8 in both the non-Pentax lenses. that i cannot explain... so what do you think? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.