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Alban Hertroys wrote:

Michael Glaesemann wrote:


On Jan 24, 2006, at 20:00 , Alban Hertroys wrote:

Though this does give the right results, I would have liked to be able to use NOT HAVING. Or is there a way using HAVING that would give the same results? I'm quite sure HAVING sort_order <> 1 doesn't mean the same thing.


Why are you so sure? It seems to me that NOT HAVING sort_order = 1 and HAVING sort_order <> 1 would mean semantically the same thing. Can you show that HAVING sort_order <> 1 gives incorrect results?


There's a difference in meaning. By NOT HAVING sort_order = 1 I mean there is no record in the grouped records that has sort_order = 1. In contrast HAVING sort_order <> 1 means there is a record in the group with a sort_order other than 1, even if there's also a sort_order = 1 in the grouped records.

To illustrate, say we have sort_orders 1,2,3,4,5:
- NOT HAVING sort_order = 1 would result false
- HAVING sort_order <> 1 would result true

If we'd have 2,3,4,5:
- NOT HAVING sort_order = 1 would result true
- HAVING sort_order <> 1 would result true

If we'd have 1 only:
- NOT HAVING sort_order = 1 would result false
- HAVING sort_order <> 1 would result false


You might try:

SELECT some_column
 FROM some_table
 GROUP BY some_column
 HAVING SUM(CASE WHEN sort_order=1 THEN 1 ELSE 0 END) = 0;

That is, "get me values for some_column from some_table; grouping by some_column, include only groups where the number of grouped records having sort_order=1 is zero."

--Will Glynn
Freedom Healthcare


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