On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:31 PM Bruce Momjian <bruce@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:24:29AM +1000, Julian Paul wrote:
> It's overly long and convoluted.
>
> "inclusivity" Is a ideologue buzzword of particular individuals that offer
> very little value apart from excessive policing of speech and behaviour
> assumed to be a problem where none exist.
>
> "Personal attacks and negative comments on personal characteristics are
> unacceptable, and will not be permitted. Examples of personal
> characteristics include, but are not limited to age, race, national origin
> or ancestry, religion, gender, or sexual orientation."
>
> So just leaving it at "Personal attacks" and ending it there won't do
> obviously. I'm a big advocate of people sorting out there own personal
> disputes in private but...
>
> "further personal attacks (public or *private*);"
>
> ...lets assume people don't have the maturity for that and make it all
> public.
>
> "may be considered offensive by fellow members" - Purely subjective and
> irrelevant to a piece of community software.
You might notice that a bullet list was removed and those example items
were added 18 months ago:
https://wiki.postgresql.org/index.php?title=Code_of_Conduct&diff=31924&oldid=29402
I realize that putting no examples has its attractions, but some felt
that having examples would be helpful. I am not a big fan of the
"protected groups" concept because it is often exploited, which is why
they are listed more as examples.
I suspect most of us could probably get behind the groups listed in the antidiscrimination section of the European Charter of Fundamental Rights at least as a compromise.
Quoting the English version:
"Any discrimination based on any ground such as sex, race, colour, ethnic or social origin, genetic features, language, religion or belief, political or any other opinion, membership of a national minority, property, birth, disability, age or sexual orientation shall be prohibited."
The inclusion of "political or any other opinion" is a nice addition and prevents a lot of concern.
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